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North Pole had sub-tropical seas because of global warming
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 9/7/04 | AFP - Paris

Posted on 09/07/2004 8:35:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: RockinRight
How about this theory: The sun's output varies over time. Therefore creating ice ages and warm periods...

If you can link that to Bush, it would be in play. ;-)

21 posted on 09/07/2004 8:57:15 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: calenel

Yes, I agree, but a change in ocean currents could also bring about such a change, and if located at some distance from the pole, it wouldn't have to be quite as dramatic.


22 posted on 09/07/2004 8:58:11 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: NormsRevenge

By deductive logic and inference, we must inevitably conclude that there were precursor-rodents running around whining about dinosaur farts - and their direct causation of global warming.


23 posted on 09/07/2004 8:58:35 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (Hate is a DNC Family Value)
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To: NormsRevenge

How long until they dig up a Palaeocene-Eocene SUV ?

These are the cause of global warming.


24 posted on 09/07/2004 9:00:28 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave
How long until they dig up a Palaeocene-Eocene SUV ?


25 posted on 09/07/2004 9:03:23 PM PDT by asgardshill (GWB throws heat. JF'nK throws spitballs.)
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To: calenel

Well, it turns out that 55 million years ago the Arctic ocean and the underlying crust was just about where it is now. 55 million years isn't so long in the geologic scheme of things.

So, I'm going over to the wobble school and the solar variation hypothesis.

Otherwise, I have to go with the dinosaur SUV hypothesis, and I don't want to be forced to go there!


26 posted on 09/07/2004 9:04:33 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Jim Noble

Darnit, that was going to be MY line! Great minds...


27 posted on 09/07/2004 9:04:36 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Paleo Conservative
The resulting long term climatic cycle resulting from this wobbling is called the Milankovitch Cycle

Yes, there are fluctuating temperature gradients associated with solar energy absorbed during this process. Thank you for citing the source.

28 posted on 09/07/2004 9:06:00 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: asgardshill
Back then, even the prehysterical J. Effing Kerrysaurus couldn't stop global warming.


29 posted on 09/07/2004 9:09:59 PM PDT by AF68
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To: AF68

Quite true. And, he received three Purple Trilobites.


30 posted on 09/07/2004 9:12:11 PM PDT by asgardshill (GWB throws heat. JF'nK throws spitballs.)
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To: John Valentine

Well, the DINOsaurs had SUVs before they didn't have them.


31 posted on 09/07/2004 9:14:02 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Minnesota had it's coldest August ever. When can I get some of this global warming.
32 posted on 09/07/2004 9:14:59 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: John Valentine
That was my 1st thought as well but the article states for a 'brief period" 55 million years ago.

Also I found this...


50 million years ago.

33 posted on 09/07/2004 9:18:57 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: NormsRevenge
"It occurred during a period called the Palaeocene-Eocene thermal maximum, which was already known as a warm period," Andy Kingdon of the British Geological Survey (BGS) told AFP.

Well, if it hadn't been for those danged SUVs, oh wait, nevermind.

34 posted on 09/07/2004 9:24:14 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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In all seriousness though this is hardly surprising or breaking news.

We've known for decades that there are petrified hardwood forests buried under the ice of Antartica. The earth's weather was drastically different even in comparatively recent times.

Consider that less than 40,000 years ago, northern Africa was a verdant grass and forest land with many large rivers besides the Nile, supporting herds of large animals to a similar extent to what the plains of central and southern Africa do now.

35 posted on 09/07/2004 9:44:18 PM PDT by Stormcrow ("It's not that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so." - R. Reagan)
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To: Stormcrow

Estimate the amount by which the water will rise, and start buying future beach front property. //humor


36 posted on 09/07/2004 9:58:41 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: edwin hubble

That is absolutely true, the sun varies its output much like a boiling pot of oatmeal varies in is energy output. However, the pot of oatmeal’s variations are over very short time periods. The Sun on the other hand has variations in its output over (what seems to us) long periods.

In addition to this the Sun has electro-magnetic ‘weather’, over both a short (sun spots and flares) and long (hydrogen gets used up and not enough heat/pressure for helium fusion, luminosity and surface temperature decrease).

This is based on models and is of course dogma, but from our observations of the sun it is the main determinant of earths temperature.

People (ahem, environmentalists) seem to forget that photosynthetic organisms fix CO2, so it is unlikely that life will not compensate for the extra gas. In addition, we are liberating CO2 that has already been fixed by plants long ago! These are FOSSIL fuels, they only left the ecosystem by some fluke.

In addition, humans are only responsible for like 3 or 4% of CO2 production each year and if I remember correctly algae and not rainforests are the largest fixers of CO2(another lie from environmentalists).

Fitness of Model:

Ockham’s razor failed
Model does not reproduce data
No correlation
Correlation with other variable

Next!

PS. There is also the wobble/tilt effect, but that would effect seasons not long term stuff.


37 posted on 09/07/2004 10:06:01 PM PDT by demecleze
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To: Stormcrow

Likewise, today there exists a snow and ice covered piece of real estate that was named Greenland not too many centuries ago.


38 posted on 09/08/2004 2:45:11 AM PDT by rusty millet
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To: trek
Just hold on a second, we all know that Halliburton controls the sun and has been ripping us off for aeons.

Sheesh dude

39 posted on 09/08/2004 3:58:58 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: ninonitti

I stand corrected.


40 posted on 09/08/2004 6:38:41 PM PDT by trek
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