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The New York Times Fingers Judao-Christians in Beslan Deaths
The Dawn Patrol via The Corner (KJL) ^ | Tuesday, September 07, 2004 | The Dawn Patrol

Posted on 09/07/2004 6:17:23 PM PDT by chiller

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To: dufekin
According to Mohammed...it was Allah who whispered all those neat things he put in the Koran
things like flying commercial aircraft into office towers and slitting female flight attendants throats with box cutters...rape torture theft lying stealing murder pedophilia sodomy all the things the Koran say are at times 'permissible' when done to glorify Allah...as the Russian school children recently found out and the Sudanese children have known for years...Allah can be harsh with any 'infidel'.... Jew ,Christian, and Pagan

Now if this Allah.. sounds like the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob to you....well.. I highly recommend a bit more reading...(which we all could use anyway) IMO
41 posted on 09/07/2004 7:58:45 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I was at this rally and it was such an american moment that we cheered in support of prayers for President Clinton. Politics were put aside, we were all Americans. Then the AP spits out the lie.

Powerline has published the email of the reporter's boss. Read this over and SEND EMAILS!!!!

powerline writes.......
Over the weekend, we wrote about the false Associated Press report on a rally for President Bush in West Allis, Wisconsin. The AP report, by AP correspondent Tom Hays, said that "Bush's audience of thousands in West Allis, Wis., booed. Bush did nothing to stop them." This was a lie; the audiotape of the rally discloses no booing whatsoever. The AP subsequently issued a corrected version of the article, which deleted all reference to the non-existent booing.

I emailed Mr. Hays over the weekend to ask for an explanation. This morning I sent Mr. Hays the following email:

Mr. Hays, I assume that you are back in your office after the holiday and will now be in a position to respond to my earlier email asking about your false report that Republicans booed President Clinton at a rally in West Allis, Wisconsin, and President Bush "did nothing to stop them." I have listened to the audio of the rally; there was no booing. I have been told by a number of people who were present at the rally that there was no booing. The Associated Press issued a corrected version of your story deleting the false claim that the crowd booed.
So, I want to know what you have to say for yourself. Were you actually at the West Allis rally? If not, from whom did you get the false information that the crowd booed? If you were at the rally, what was your basis for reporting that the crowd booed and President Bush did nothing to stop it? And what relationship, formal or informal, do you have with the Kerry campaign?

I look forward to hearing from you. We have a website that is read by 50,000 or more people, and we have commented on this incident at length. Those comments have been linked to by other websites with readerships totaling in the millions. If you have anything to say for yourself, I will happily print it. Otherwise, I will be forced to conclude, and will publish my conclusion, that this is a naked instance of press bias, and that you deliberately filed a false report for the purpose of aiding the Kerry campaign.


Mr. Hays' email address is thays@ap.org. I will advise our readers if and when I get a response from him. In the meantime, polite emails to the above address, asking for an explanation of his false report, would be appropriate.


42 posted on 09/07/2004 8:36:17 PM PDT by gogipper (Zell Miller -- At last a Democrat who isn't truth impaired.....Give 'em hell Zell.)
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To: chiller

"All The News That's Shi'ite To Print"


43 posted on 09/07/2004 8:56:06 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Rocky

Oh, yeah...THAT "boo". The old media can't stop digging their own grave.


44 posted on 09/08/2004 6:08:22 AM PDT by chiller (Kill lying liberal Old media.....turn 'em off !)
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To: chiller

From the newspaper that gave us Walter Duranty and Jayson Blair.


45 posted on 09/08/2004 6:12:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: chiller

Heard a Russian pastor on a talk show this morning - many of the victims were Baptists - this was an explicit attack on Christian people.


46 posted on 09/08/2004 6:14:41 AM PDT by geros
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To: chiller

I agree. That's beyond the pale, even for the despicable NY Slimes.


47 posted on 09/08/2004 6:17:51 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: gogipper

Friday night's NBC news with Brokaw ran the West Allis clip with cheers and applause and no comment. I like to think there was a purpose for this 10 second slam of the AP.


48 posted on 09/08/2004 6:18:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
In other words, the Times wanted so badly to leave Islam out of its Beslan feature that it altered the terrorist's quote.

Nondenominational freedom fighters bump.

49 posted on 09/08/2004 6:20:27 AM PDT by A. Pole (Madeleine Albright:"We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.")
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To: meyer
"No wonder there are so many liberals in NY - they're being brainwashed by this flippin' leftist rag."

You got that right!! The New York Times is the worst and run by extreme liberals/Communists/Anti-Americans. Many schools in New York require their students read this rag!! The New York Times have one agenda right now, and that is to beat George Bush. Are we going to let some small lefty group take power of our country, simply because they are the writers at the New York Slimes? I don't think so!!

DON'T BUY THE NEW YORK TIMES - THEY LIE AND CHEAT
50 posted on 09/08/2004 6:20:53 AM PDT by Raquel (It's our security - stupid)
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To: chiller
We either stand with Putin, or we stand with the terrorists.

My vote is for Putin.

51 posted on 09/08/2004 6:21:12 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: dufekin
It's just Arabic for "God." I suppose that the Times did a proper translation.

This was translation from Russian, not Arabic. He said in RUSSIAN "Allah" instead of "Bog".

52 posted on 09/08/2004 6:23:45 AM PDT by A. Pole (Madeleine Albright:"We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.")
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To: The_Reader_David
"If he was pleading in Russian or Chechen, translating Allah from the Arabic along with the translation from Russian or Chechen is dishonest. If he was speaking entirely in Arabic, I have no problem with the translation. "

You could be entirely correct - objectively.
Technically Allah and God may interchange in translation.

However, the point of the post is that subjectively allah refers to the muslim god (or, to God in arabic) and God is the god of the Christians. In a more obscure comparison - how would you interpret "By the Gods I did not shoot"?

Belief, propaganda, votes, are subjective issues, not based on one-for-one mechanical exchanges of equivalent elements.
By changing from allah to God, the author intentionally obscured the nature of the terrorist - making him appear to be a non-muslim to those reading the article.

I'm sure the author simply wanted to avoid profiling....no thoughts about misleading the public...not at all afraid that the party line might be smudged by mass murder...nothing like that, nah.

53 posted on 09/08/2004 6:26:21 AM PDT by norton (interesting, spell check thinks 'allah' should have a capital "A" must be an old dictionary,)
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To: norton
"By changing from allah to God, the author intentionally obscured the nature of the terrorist - making him appear to be a non-muslim to those reading the article."

And with that, the argument is won. Thanks.

54 posted on 09/08/2004 7:01:31 AM PDT by chiller (Kill lying liberal Old media.....turn 'em off !)
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To: A. Pole
Translating "Allah" as "God" does not make the speaker a Jew or a Christian--I've seen that translation referring to Zeus. However, the New World Order Times not only refuses to call islamist terrorists muslims, but even refuses to call terrorists "terrorists"!!!! The Chechen bandits are always "separatists" or "rebels", KLA savages are "Albanian nationalists" etc. And with the Times, Serbs are "war criminals", and Putin needs to pursue a "political solution" in Chechnya.

In my area, those who consider themselves "intellectuals" or "well-informed" read the national edition of the NYT, while the hoi polloi read the (still liberal and NYO-oriented, but with a bit less arrogance) local paper. I read the local paper along with the hoi polloi, despite my Ivy League education and professional status, and REFUSE to buy the NYT!!!! But I often complain about the local paper's social liberalism, Serbophobia, and pro-muslim stance.

55 posted on 09/08/2004 7:14:03 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: chiller

Glad to help.


56 posted on 09/08/2004 7:25:36 AM PDT by norton
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To: A. Pole

In my whole life, I have bought just one copy of the NYT. It was back during the second clinton error, when all impeachment was breaking loose, and I thought it would be interesting to see what 'the paper of record" had to say on the whole thing.

If I could return that paper for a cash refund now, I believe I would.....


57 posted on 09/08/2004 7:48:41 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Jesus Christ ~ "whosoever will may come" ///// mohammed ~ "convert, submit, or die")
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To: TigersEye
That's pretty funny since he was the supreme leader of the National Socialist Party.

Yes, but Adolph was a "National" socialist, the fellow travelers at the NYT, such as Walter Duranty, were "World" socialists". The difference is only in who will do the suffering. First.

58 posted on 09/08/2004 8:14:55 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: dufekin
Apparently Arab-speaking Jews and Christians refer to our God as "Allah."

The NY Times article wasn't written for the Arabs but for Americans who they are deliberately trying to mislead. "Allah" is not God, it is a different diety ---- you would never shout "God akbar" before bayoneting a small child or beheading an innocent person because the God of the Christians and Jews would not be pleased but they believe their allah is.

59 posted on 09/08/2004 3:54:26 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: chiller

Actually the matter was settled by the previous post: the cowardly thug was pleading in Russian, but said "Allah" rather than "Bog". Then NYT again proves itself contemptible.


60 posted on 09/08/2004 8:08:35 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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