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AP: Lawsuit Gets Bush Guard Papers Out

6 minutes ago

By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) was ranked in the middle of his Air National Guard class and flew more than 336 hours in a fighter jet before letting his pilot status lapse and missing a key readiness drill, according to his flight records belatedly uncovered Tuesday under the Freedom of Information Act.

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The Pentagon (news - web sites) and Bush's campaign have claimed for months that all records detailing his fighter pilot career have been made public, but defense officials said they found two dozen new records detailing his training and flight logs after The Associated Press filed a lawsuit and crafted new requests under the public records law.

"Previous requests from other requesters for President Bush's Individual Flight Records did not lead to the discovery of these records because at the time President Bush left the service, flight records were subject to retention for only 24 months and we understood that neither the Air Force nor the Texas Air National Guard retained such records thereafter," the Pentagon told the AP.

"Out of an abundance of caution," the government "searched a file that had been preserved in spite of this policy" and found the Bush records, the letter said. "The Department of Defense (news - web sites) regrets this oversight during the previous search efforts."

The records show Bush, a lieutenant in the Texas Air National Guard, was ranked No. 22 in a class of 53 pilots when he finished his flight training at Moody Air Force Base in Georgia in 1969.

Over the next three years, he logged 326.4 hours as a pilot and an additional 9.9 hours as a co-pilot, mostly in his the F-102a jet used to intercept enemy aircraft.

The records show his last flight came on April 1972, which is consistent with his pay records that show Bush had a large lapse of duty between April and October of that year, a time he says he went to Alabama to work on an unsuccessful Republican Senate campaign. Bush skipped a required medical exam that cost his pilot's status in August 1972.

A six-month historical record of his 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, also turned over to the AP on Tuesday, shows some of the training Bush missed with his colleagues during that time.

Significantly, it showed the unit joined a "24-hour active alert mission to safeguard against surprise attack" in the southern United State beginning on Oct. 6, 1972, a time when Bush did not report for duty, according to his pay records.

Bush's lone service in October came at another air base an Alabama, where he sought temporary permission to train away from his assigned squadron.

As part of the mission, the 147th kept two F-102a jets — the same Bush flew before he lost his flight status for skipping a required medical exam — on ready alert to be launched within five minutes warning.

The records also indicate Bush made good grades, scoring an 88 on total airmanship and earning perfect 100 for flying without navigational instruments, operating a T-38 System and studying applied aerodynamics. Other scores ranged from 89 in flight planning to 98 in aviation physiology.


26 posted on 09/07/2004 4:55:29 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Howlin

Well NOW "W' can say: "My records are ALL out....How about yours "F"?"


33 posted on 09/07/2004 4:58:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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To: Howlin
By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer

What relation to Kitty Kelley, exactly?

Considering that he's with AP, the two Kelleys probably use rent boys from the same escort service. Kerry probably moonlighted there.

You gotta love that 22/53 is "middle". Proof that bush is a republican. What would they call a Democrat who came 22nd in a field of 53?

But Matt Kelley has not now, and will not ever, ask for Kerry's records. Even though, well, let's compare the two controversies.

  1. People who were not there have charged that Bush blew off his service for several months in 1972, and never made up the time (even though pay records show he did). Michael Moore has charged that Bush didn't take a physical for fear cocaine would be detected. (What Moore doesn't know, or more likely knows and doesn't report, having spent less time in the Service than Bush in AL and Kerry in VN combined, is that the military wouldn't drug-test its members for ten more years. So even if Bush WAS a coke head, he wouldn't flunk a physical over it). Anyway, we are talking here about two to six months of weekend drills, or a total of a dozen days.

    Because the press is desperately interested in this, Bush has authorised the release of all his records.

    Note also that this dozen days needs to be multiplied by the importance having been a fighter pilot thirty years ago has in Bush's campaign: zero.

  2. Credible people who were there have documented that every one of Kerry's Vietnam medals is, at best, questionable; that he habitually falsified reports; that he claimed enemy fire where there was none.

    For reasons known only to Kerry, but strongly suggesting that he has something to hide, he has stonewalled on the release of his records. Matt Kelley and his other "fluffers" at the AP have cooperated in the stonewalling.

    Note also that this stint in Vietnam, and this apparently stolen valor, is not only the centerpiece but the whole alpha and omega of Kerry's campaign.

Folks, Kelley and company have pulled out all the stops, and we know how powerful the once-mainstream media is these days. After all, they smeared Arnold Schwarzenegger in a similar manner, and handed the election to Cruz Bustamante... er....

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

PS. At this time US involvement in Vietnam was ending... the ground forces were OUT... the military was being transformed into a much smaller, volunteer force. And the Air Guard had way more pilots than it could use, so it was RIFfing them.

76 posted on 09/07/2004 5:21:02 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (The Associated Press: 'If you're going to lie, make it a big lie.')
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To: Howlin
The records show Bush, a lieutenant in the Texas Air National Guard, was ranked No. 22 in a class of 53 pilots when he finished his flight training at Moody Air Force Base in Georgia in 1969.

He evidently improved as an F102 pilot:

from his fitness reviews:

"Lieutenant Bush is an outstanding young pilot and officer and is a credit to his unit," Lt. Col. Bobby Hodges wrote on May 27, 1971. "This officer is rated in the upper 10 percent of his contemporaries."

Another, written by Maj. William Harris on May 26, 1972, was just as glowing: "Lieutenant Bush is an exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer."

102 posted on 09/07/2004 5:59:12 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Howlin

bttt


114 posted on 09/07/2004 6:12:42 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Howlin

Grrr---don't you notice that the important tng. mission he missed was during the time ORDERS attached him to the AL unit for tng.and he wasn't responsible for that tng.?
This is written up in a way to discredit Bush, NATURALLY.

I hate the AP!
I hate CNN! --and Reuters
I hate Matthews! --Woodruff--Carville--Begala.........nnnn
O, o, o. Where is the Prozac? (actually, the only tranquilizer I ever took was 1 Valium when it was the drug of choice for drs. in 1962. I knew I still had problems, I just didn't give a @##. I knew as a military wife and mother of three, I couldn't afford to feel that way, so I threw them out and just got over it.) But is this TANG business ever frustrating.

vaudine


176 posted on 09/07/2004 9:31:08 PM PDT by vaudine
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