> the fundamental rule of debate with creationists: creationists define all of the terms
Indeed. Very... Kerry-esque. "War criminal" one day means "war hero" the next...
Based on the "arguements" often used, I suspect that more than a few of the louder Creationists are actually DUers, here to disillusion reasonable people with the Conservative movement. Make Conservatives look like... well, like Creationists, and you might not win people over to the Dem side, but you might drive people away from the Republicans. And that's good enough.