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In debates, expect the unexpected
Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 7, 2004 | Godfrey Sperling

Posted on 09/07/2004 3:06:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

IMHO, these debates will be meaningless. Other than to reinforce Kerry's constant blowing in the wind.


41 posted on 09/07/2004 5:01:48 AM PDT by OldFriend (GIVE EM ZELL)
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To: MistyCA
"According to Kerry's personal friend and debating coach at Yale."

Two thoughts on this:

1) I also heard this same coach say that Kerry always wanted to go first because he could only debate from the script. He could not adjust his dialog as he went to incorporate rebuttal of someone going before him. This is exactly what I observed when he debated O'Neill. How many times did Kerry say: "to get back to the point." This was just a way to get back to the script.

2) Men without solid core values and principles are never good debaters IMO. They have no natural reactions to things. They have to process all of their thoughts through the filter of political correctness.

This journalist is suggesting that the "intellectual and nuanced" Kerry is going to get his clock cleaned. Bush's moral clarity and values will win.
42 posted on 09/07/2004 5:02:54 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: HamiltonJay

"Every question asked Bush can simply point out the LACK of a Kerry record on the topic"

Are you suggesting that Bush simply use each question asked him to attack Kerry? Not a good strategy. This whole election is about the President. It is him or not him, Kerry is just the guy filling slot 2. If Bush wants a real mandate he is going to have to figure out how to communicate what he has done. It can be said simply, but it needs to be clear. Just attacking his opponent will leave him wide open. If you want a recipe for disaster they should listen to you.

I am glad you are not his coach.


43 posted on 09/07/2004 5:19:04 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: MistyCA

"Plus, his wife sucks!"

Don't be a jerk. If it were Republican Senator Heinz from PA running for President you would say the exact opposite of his wife.

Leave the woman be. She isn't Hillary and attacking her makes Pubbies look petty and mean-spirited. Her second husband is bad enough that we can concentrate on him.


44 posted on 09/07/2004 5:23:58 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I've already seen the MSM talking up how "Bush has never lost a debate". They know how bad of an idea it is to pump up expectations for their own candidate again.

Look to hear about Bush's debating successes and prowess leading up to the events themselves.


45 posted on 09/07/2004 5:26:38 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
[Bush] may not understand or deal with nuance the way Kerry does

Hm. A subtle way of saying Kerry's smarter. I just don't see that. Kerry is more "arrogant," but "smarter"? Suppose it depends on how one defines "smart"....

46 posted on 09/07/2004 6:15:49 AM PDT by Theo
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To: MistyCA
Kerry has changed his position on many of the issues and it makes it much more difficult to be coherent.

Consider, too, that in the debates Kerry will be seen on a nationwide platform. He won't be able to tailor his remarks to a particular segment of the constituency, but will have to be all things to all people.

47 posted on 09/07/2004 6:24:24 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

No, I did not say that was the ONLY thing he should be doing. If you read the entire post you would have read that Kerry will be on the defensive the entire debate, because he has taken both sides of nearly every major issue.


48 posted on 09/07/2004 6:48:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
So much gamesmanship.

Kerry will need all the help they can give him.
49 posted on 09/07/2004 6:52:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MistyCA

I read elsewhere that JK's father used to almost always mock his opinions on world affairs etc saying they were "sophomoric". Maybe that word would trigger some interesting responses from Kerry LOL


50 posted on 09/07/2004 7:23:50 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Nixon was supposed to demolish Mr. Kennedy. At least, that was the talk among the press - and hence that was the opinion that the public was reading and hearing.

Just goes to show, it it goes back at least 30 years, DON'T TRUST THE PRESS.

The media is almost always wrong. they think Kerry is ahead and will win. Imagine their "surprise" when Bush wins in a landslide. The only other people who will be surprised are the people who rely only on NBC, CBS, and ABC and AP stories in their local papers.

51 posted on 09/07/2004 7:26:51 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There's a little-reported fact about Bush's campaign stops, that will probably be the deciding factor in these charades they call "presidential debates."

One of the things Bush does, is take unscripted questions from the crowd. Apparently this is a pretty standard thing. What that means is, he's been practicing for the debates for months, now. He's not only figured out what people are interested in, he's also figured out how to answer these questions in an affable, understandable manner. (You see the positive results of this at work in his more recent press conferences.)

Kerry's going to come off as a stilted, pompous ass.

52 posted on 09/07/2004 7:33:39 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: IamConservative

Exactly. Thank you. :)


53 posted on 09/07/2004 9:40:49 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Excuse me. I am not generally one to say things I do not believe. I may be a jerk, but I do not LIKE Terayza Kerry because of what she personally stands for. She has a lot of money behind her that supports a lot of things that I believe are not good for this country. I believe it is a bad idea to have her in the WH where she can further her own personal agenda regardless of who her husband is. JMO. You do not have to agree with me, but I am entitled to my opinion. Thanks.


54 posted on 09/07/2004 9:47:13 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: 1066AD

You have a good point.


55 posted on 09/07/2004 9:50:12 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: HamiltonJay

Can you refer me to any articles regarding alleged voter fraud in the 1960 Presidential Election? I'm not aware of this notion...


56 posted on 09/07/2004 9:56:04 AM PDT by sargon (How could anyone vote for the socialist, weak-on-defense fraud named John Kerry?)
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To: sargon
The controversy surrounding the 1960 election is pretty well documented with arguments for both sides... here is one that is out there http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2897/index44.html
57 posted on 09/07/2004 10:36:10 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: MistyCA

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But, rather than use expletives (which reflect poorly on your character rather than hers) perhaps you can try expressing your displeasure relying upon solid facts and thus stop diluting the quality of the Free Republic content.

You are excused.


58 posted on 09/07/2004 10:54:02 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kerry's handlers will warn him to avoid long, run-on sentences. They will instruct him how to avoid looking pompous and condescending. Kerry's handlers will give him jokes, snappy one-liners, but he'll blow the delivery. Kerry's wild hand and arm gestures will look even more out of sync in a debate than they do in campaign speeches. Kerry's disdain for Bush will look like disrespect for the presidency. Kerry will lose his temper.

Bush will be Bush. Voters will join Poppy Bush in saying, "That's my boy!

59 posted on 09/07/2004 11:06:02 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Real, Genuine, Authentic, Not A Phoney Bone In Bush's Body.com)
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To: freeplancer

I disagree. Four inches is hardly towering over.


60 posted on 09/07/2004 11:21:00 AM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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