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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
This is SOOOO familiar to me, a girl who never was in any military. Why is this all so familiar?

Because when I was in college in 1979-80 in France, I had a bunch of German friends. Now, these buddies were all reading special newsletters and pamphlets that they got from the Greens (not yet with any representation in the gov't) and the Reds back home in Germany. We got into a lot of arguments. They all believed they were reading the "real truth" about the world, and that the Soviets were the more benign superpower.

All through cities in W. Germany at the time, there were "red" stores where the young would shop. The stores were filled with what I considered propaganda. My friends were mostly pre-med students. They were not dumb. Yet they believed all this cr@p that they were reading, and they believed it was written and compiled by truth-seeking German journalists. I thought it was Soviet propaganda.

Well, I was right, after all. It has all been proven now.

Obviously, that was going on in the Viet Nam era as well. The Soviet propaganda machine was very good at getting readers to believe A) the nonsense and B) that it came from decent sources. Kerry was being used by the Communists, and they did such a good job that I think half of what he believes TO THIS DAY comes from their propaganda dept!

64 posted on 09/06/2004 9:19:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Aided of course by the US media such as Dan and Walter. Two pure-bred leftists. I don't think they were in the pocket of the communists but they certainly did not believe in the US and still don't, imho, to this day...especially walter.


71 posted on 09/06/2004 9:23:31 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: Yaelle

Read about Richard Kerry, his father. As red as they come..Several good threads.

Here's a start:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1198744/posts


73 posted on 09/06/2004 9:27:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Yaelle
Kerry was being used by the Communists, and they did such a good job that I think half of what he believes TO THIS DAY comes from their propaganda dept!

Wow- that makes Kerry some sort of prize as far as useful idiots go.

82 posted on 09/06/2004 9:39:53 PM PDT by getitright (I support a fetus's right to choose.)
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To: Yaelle

The communists infiltrated and eventually took over leadership of the VVAW in the 70s....The communists are great "organizers" and know how to use propaganda...They take a legitimate cause like civil rights and turn it into the direction they want it to go.

I do not believe being anti war is an illegitimate cause(thouh I disagree)..but the communists and socialists come in and change it into something more..It becomes the symbol for ideas I deplore and uses slogans that I despise..

The anti war protests here had a variety of people attending and it did not seem to matter to them that the buses were chartered, plans were made by Socialists...The same is true of many anti Bush organizations...there is a tie to international "progressives"..

There are socialists, communists and the useful idiots.We have a lot of useful idiots in the US.

The reds are not dead..They just organize under new names.


138 posted on 09/07/2004 12:08:40 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Yaelle

....and they did such a good job that I think half of what he believes TO THIS DAY comes from their propaganda dept!

%%%%

I can't cite the sources right now, but I have read that Kerry's father was in the diplomatic corps and was very leftwing in his idealogy. I think Kerry learned his pinko philosophy from his dad.

Just like GWB learned decency from his dad!


163 posted on 09/07/2004 4:22:29 AM PDT by maica
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To: Yaelle
I thought it was Soviet propaganda.

It was.

As a spy chief and a general in the former Soviet satellite of Romania, I produced the very same vitriol Kerry repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for word and planted it in leftist movements throughout Europe. KGB chairman Yuri Andropov managed our anti-Vietnam War operation. He often bragged about having damaged the U.S. foreign-policy consensus, poisoned domestic debate in the U.S., and built a credibility gap between America and European public opinion through our disinformation operations. Vietnam was, he once told me, "our most significant success."
Kerry’s Soviet Rhetoric
203 posted on 09/07/2004 8:48:57 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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