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Shaking Up Islam in America
Time ^ | 9/5/04 | ASRA Q. NOMANI

Posted on 09/06/2004 4:20:48 PM PDT by Valin

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To: Valin

Well, it's plain to me, that they are giving women more attention and status, because the muslim women are now taking a more active role in homicide bombing, after all, they have to give them SOMETHING while they are alive, they don't get 72 young, virgin men, when they go to "paradise".


41 posted on 09/06/2004 5:43:37 PM PDT by RetSignman (Forever Optimistic)
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To: JudyinCanada

"I don't think that any reforming or modernizing, or whatever you want to call it would make any diffenence "

No, it's what you wanted to call it...

I was just curious if you believed that religions should " change with the times" or not - no big deal, not important...


42 posted on 09/06/2004 5:44:03 PM PDT by RS (The Truth may be slimy, but it is never slime)
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To: Valin
We are going to see a ton of propaganda like this coming at us from every direction before the next attacks on innocent Americans. The don't want their "holy" sites to burn. That is where they plot and plan. The left-wing liberal media will lap this up and spew it out to America.

After what happened in Russia...I am no mood for moderation.

And I'm not buying it.
43 posted on 09/06/2004 5:44:44 PM PDT by JediForce (Never underestimate the power of the Dark side of the Force....keep the blasters' fully charged.)
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To: FixitGuy

Very well put!

"Then will they show that they are worthy to share with the rest of the peace loving world."

Begs the question, which world would this be?
Like so many here I love reading history, and have come to the conclusion that history can be divided into 3 phases
1 getting reading to fight a war
2 fighting the war
3 recovering from the war (and back to 1)
/really broadbrush


44 posted on 09/06/2004 5:51:07 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: RetSignman

See #34


45 posted on 09/06/2004 5:51:53 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: Valin

...AND?


46 posted on 09/06/2004 5:59:06 PM PDT by RetSignman (Forever Optimistic)
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To: FixitGuy
And we ain't done by a longshot!</I.

Clearly from some of the posts around here, there is a lot of hard work still to be done christianizing the Christians.

47 posted on 09/06/2004 6:02:12 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Valin
There will be wars until:

1. The victorious are magnanimous in victory.

2. The vanquished swear no revenge.

Somebody's gotta say, "ENOUGH!"

You have a tough row to hoe Valin.

Be at peace, (and thank God for anonymity!).

48 posted on 09/06/2004 6:03:21 PM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: RetSignman

Apply to yourself.


49 posted on 09/06/2004 6:04:04 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: Valin
7 thousand years, and now they get to walk into the front door! The progress into the 21st century is too fast, I tell you! It's shocking! What's next, Muslim dog shows? Too late. Good Muslims lie to bad infidels. This infidel just wants your vile cult obliterated.
50 posted on 09/06/2004 6:17:52 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam...it's about Islam.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

See reply #34.


51 posted on 09/06/2004 6:19:17 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: 2banana
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
52 posted on 09/06/2004 6:20:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Valin
They fired the student from his post giving sermons.

Why didn't they kick his butt out of the mosque?

53 posted on 09/06/2004 6:22:08 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Valin

That's the problem, many Belsans are Russians who were either ignorant or ignored much of this religion (Islam). Muslims arent sorry about what happened at Beslan. According to muslims the baby killers and rapists of little girls made a very bad P.R. move.


54 posted on 09/06/2004 6:27:44 PM PDT by Coroner
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To: Valin

I read reply #54. I don't fault you for posting the article. Nor did I mean that it is ' your' vile cult.
It's just that most of us ( here and around the country) now see that it is the Koran that is the problem. When they go through that and eliminate the portions that order Muslims to kill non-believers, then talk to me about 'change'.

Until then, their little 'modernizations' are superficial and meant to pacify. How they dress, what door they walk into, allowing an infidel or two to sit in an odd mosque here or there means nothing if the book they open and believe says I must submit or die.
Nazis in evening clothes at the opera were still Nazis.
It's the IDEAOLOGY. It's their 'scripture'.
Find an article about that changing.


55 posted on 09/06/2004 6:32:46 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam...it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: wtc911

All that Valin does with his drivel is radicalize me even more. Every post by him makes my hatred more fierce. I live in Michigan and I let it be known to muslims that in America they are dhimmi. When I see one on the sidewalk I pick up my pace and make damn sure they get the hell outa my way. I see a muslim and I stare directly at em and look right thru em. I've even made derogatory statements to em. Every time I drive by the mosque, up goes the one finger salute. Screw em.


56 posted on 09/06/2004 6:34:35 PM PDT by Coroner
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To: Coroner

Every time I drive by the mosque, up goes the one finger salute. Screw em.
Proverbs 14:21 He that despises his neighbor sins


57 posted on 09/06/2004 6:52:04 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: Valin

Its only because I know muzzies too damn good!!! The Muslim creed: First by infiltration and then by violence you will submit to Islam!!!


58 posted on 09/06/2004 6:58:45 PM PDT by Coroner
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To: ClearBlueSky

I've never said Islam is true (IT'S NOT) or that they don't have serious problems (THEY DO). There are those inside Islam who are trying to address these problems, weather they will be successful..who know, if they aren't then Islam will end up on the asshear of history.
My problem is with people(?) like "Coroner" and the rest of the Nuke Mecca crowd, who have given in to hate and (apparently) have no clue of what is going on in the world. They seem to think(?) that the way we shold fight this war is by going to war with 1+ billion people based on their religion. In this they and OBL agree.


59 posted on 09/06/2004 7:02:19 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: Coroner

So you're going you're sink down to that level?
Have fun in the mud.


60 posted on 09/06/2004 7:03:40 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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