Al Qaeda among the Chechens

Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 07, 2004 | Scott Peterson

[Snapple]

Russian investigators describe terrorists:

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_8.html

10 of 32 terrorists at Beslan were Arab nationals with Al Qaida ties


SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Monday, September 6, 2004
MOSCOW – Russian investigators said Arab operatives linked to Al Qaida played a major role in the takeover of a Russian school in which 400 people were killed.

Russian officials said authorities have determined that 10 of the 32 suicide attackers who took over a high school in Beslan in North Ossetia last week were nationals from several Arab countries. Most of the attackers were Chechens and Ingush who had been trained at Al Qaida camps in Afghanistan.

The 10 Arab nationals came from Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria, officials said. They said security forces seized notebooks in Arabic in the school taken over by insurgents. Officials said survivors told authorities that some of the captors spoke Arabic during the three-day hostage ordeal.

All of the captors were said to have been killed, but three accomplices were arrested, Middle East Newsline reported.

The Arab nationals were said to have been recruited in the Middle East and hosted by Shamil Basayev, head of the Chechen insurgency and aligned with Al Qaida.

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"We're hoping to release additional information over the next few days," an official said. "But precise details will require cooperation from our allies."
The officials said the attackers were trained in Al Qaida camps in Afghanistan and financed by Abu Omar Al Seif, regarded as a leading Al Qaida operative and the organization's representative in Chechnya.

Al Seif, identified as the chief Islamic ideologue in the Chechen insurgency, was brought to Chechnya in 1995 by Saudi national Samir Saleh Abdullah Al Suwailem, known as Abu Khattab. Abu Khattab was said to have been killed in 2002.

Officials said Basayev received Saudi financial aid for at least a decade, most of it through Al Seif. They said Basayev and Al Seif employed hundreds of Saudi volunteers for suicide and other mass casualty attacks in Chechnya and other parts of Russia as well as raised funds required for the attack on the school in Beslan.

In December 2003, Federal Security Service spokesman Sergei Ignatchenko said virtually all of the suicide attacks in Russia over the last few years were organized by Al Seif and Abu Al Walid. Ignatchenko identified Al Walid as responsible for the Arab fighters in Chechnya.

"Major financial resources reach Al Walid and Abu Omar from extremist centers in a series of Arab countries," Ignatchenko was quoted as saying by the Itar-Tass news agency.

Several Middle East countries planned to increase security cooperation with Russia, officials said. On Monday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was scheduled to meet Israeli leaders in an effort to pave the way for expanded security cooperation. Saudi Arabia and Turkey have also agreed to increased security cooperation with Moscow. Victims of the insurgency attack included at least one Turkish national.

"The recent terrorist act in Russia has showed the importance of international cooperation in fight against terrorism," Turkish Interior Minister Abdulkadir Aksu said.

[MegaSilver]

Word has it that since our toppling of the Taliban and capturing of most of al Qaeda's major leaders, rather than slowly degenerating, al Qaeda has simply decentralized even more, which allows it to proliferate more efficiently.

Who knows how long it'll be before the Turkish military has to ward off a serious Islamic threat, as well?

[MizSterious]

FYI

[Viet-Boat-Rider]

Islamic hate in the Quran:

Qur’an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Bukhari:V4B52N50“The Prophet said, ‘A single endeavor of fighting in Allah’s Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.’”

Qur’an 9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Qur’an 8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

Qur’an 8:39“So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE MUSLUM RELIGION IS PEACEFUL, THAT IS HYPE. MUSLUMS WANT TO KILL US, PERIOD!

[OldCorps]

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[fortheDeclaration]

"Word has it that since our toppling of the Taliban and capturing of most of al Qaeda's major leaders, rather than slowly degenerating, al Qaeda has simply decentralized even more, which allows it to proliferate more efficiently."

No, the problem was that they had training camps to train these people in.
Those are now gone.
As we whittle their well trained men down, we will have fewer and fewer well trained terrorists to deal with.
Moreover, fewer leaders will lead to more mistakes.
We started this war late
Should have started in 92 in Somila
But we are on the right track

[ellery]

Of course AQ was involved. Remember the videotapes of AQ terrorists in Afghan camps practicing takeovers of schools? This is what they were training for.

[hershey]

Turkey's just outlawed adultery, one of Islam's bete noir's. A little French lingo there.

[nmh]

This is so sad it defies words ... .

If some are of child bearing age, sure they can have another one but you can NEVER replace the one that was senselessly murdered. We are all unique individuals. My heart goes out to these parents.

[Boxsford]

Oh how awful! Forgive them their sins? I believe God has given them over to their reprobate minds....(Romans)
No, not forgiveness! Not revenge.
Justice!!

[MegaSilver]

Turkey's just outlawed adultery, one of Islam's bete noir's. A little French lingo there.

They did? I thought they were just debating it at this point.

[MizSterious]

Yes! I remember those videos! Also--remember one of the recent AQ messages stated that even our children wouldn't be safe--and indeed, they weren't.

Also, this quote from another article should be of interest to all of us here--

A search of a Bosnian branch of this very foundation uncovered a simple handwritten order from Osama bin Laden, "It is time to attack Russia".

I think few would doubt that AQ was involved in this--and probably in a major way.

[ellery]

Wow. Wow. Good info.

[ABN 505]

After the Russians identify these murderers they should identify all the members of their immediate family's and exterminate them Man, Women and Child! Lets see how many of these savages are willing to have their Parents, Brothers, Sisters, and Children killed because of their willingness to participate in the Muslim Madness.

[Frank_2001]

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[Clara Lou]

Thanks for the ping. This article, at least, contains some shreds of evidence. The other one was unfounded speculation.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Have you read this?

[MizSterious]

Also check the link in my #13 on this thread.

[Snapple]

Yes. Al Qaeda makes inroads because of historic injustices to the Chechens that make them suseptible to this terrorists.

Lots of crooks have exploited Chechnya. The Army has bombed them so much.

The government didn't use the money it was supposed to use to rebuild. It got stolen.

AL Qaeda is worse than Putin, but he needs to make sure the Chechens aren't ripped off and mistreated.