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To: parnasokan; Fedora; cyncooper; piasa; Mitchell; okie01; CatoRenasci
Particularly active are the Washington Monthly (Joshua Marshall and Laura Rozen) and the Talking Points Memo group.

Credulous dupes gain international renown. They read like flattered wannabe insiders.

On the 7th of march Baradei declared the documents false. Excellent timing. Its rather interesting that even before Baradei made his decleration some ex-CIA agents, through thier web site Veteran Intelligence Professional for Sanity-Vips, had alreaady made it known that the dossier had been manipulated.

Hmm...maybe possible DGSE agent "Niger Mint Tea" was incautiously honest when he said he "proved" the documents were forgeries before the IAEA did, and his later expression of "confusion" an after-the-fact deflection.

5 posted on 09/06/2004 11:35:59 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy; piasa; Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for the ping.

In this anti-3B operation a role is played by Chiracs government and those of the progressive-democratic orientation that want to change the way things are run in America. Politicians (for example Jay Rockfeller), media, retired Cia agents are al involved. In addition to the Cbs, heavily involved in these activities, is the Washington Monthly. We are able to reconstruct two fields of action in the anti-3B brotherhood. The first is that of Rocco Martino, but we have already explained it. The second is more complicated. It’s based upon the source of the false documents being Michael Ledeen and a weapons dealer, Manucher Ghorbanifar, individual involved in the Iran-Contra case. Particularly active are the Washington Monthly (Joshua Marshall and Laura Rozen) and the Talking Points Memo group. They announced being on the trail of “shocking documents” which would prove a meeting in Rome in the winter of 2002 between Ledeen – one of the most known neoconservatives close to Bush - Ghorbanifar and Iranian dissidents. They were allegidlly joined by the Italian Defence Minister, Antonio Martino, and the head of the Italian Military Secret Services, Niccolò Pollari (indicated trough rank but not named), as well as members of the American governemnt.

Interesting if true and not another psyop itself. Some stuff on Ghorbanifar:

TRUTH ABOUT GHORBANIFAR By Michael A. Ledeen, Reply by Theodore H. Draper In response to 'Rewriting the Iran-Contra Story': An Exchange (March 2, 1989)

Then he has at me once again on Ghorbanifar. Like those at CIA who stereotyped Ghorbanifar as a near-total, pathological liar, Draper just can't bring himself to look honestly at the evidence. For what does Mr. Draper use as proof of Ghorbanifar's mendacity? He cites the trip to Tehran in the spring of 1986, when "Ghorbanifar was blamed by the Americans for having deceived both sides about what each was prepared to do…."

Profile: Manucher Ghorbanifar

June 2003 Complete Iraq timeline

The Pentagon Office of Special Plans sends two Defense officials, Harold Rhode and Larry Franklin, to Paris where they secretly meet with Manucher Ghorbanifar, an Iranian arms trader who had been a central figure in the Iran-Contra affair. Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute is said to have arranged the meeting, which is not authorized by the White House. [Newsday, 8/9/03; Washington Post, 8/9/03 Sources: A senior official interviewed by Newsday] It appears that the purpose of the meeting is to undermine a pending deal that the White House is negotiating with the Iranian government. Iran is considering turning over five al-Qaeda operatives in exchange for Washington dropping its support for Mujahadeen Khalq, an Iraq-based rebel Iranian group listed as a terrorist organization by the State Department. The Office of Special Plans is reportedly interested in using this group to help destabilize Iran?s government. [Newsday, 8/9/03; Inter Press Service, 8/7/03] When Secretary of State Colin Powell gets wind of its activities, he complains directly to the office of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, saying that Feith's missions are against US policy. [Newsday, 8/9/03; Washington Post, 8/9/03]

People and organizations involved: Michael Ledeen, Manucher Ghorbanifar, Larry Franklin, Harold Rhode

Exclusive: Regime Change in Iran? One Man's Secret Plan. Iran's Chalabi? Manucher Ghorbanifar says he talked secretly with Pentagon officials about plans for regime change in Iran

What was international man of mystery Manucher Ghorbanifar up to when he met with top Pentagon experts on Iran? In a NEWSWEEK interview in Paris last month, Ghorbanifar, a former Iranian spy who helped launch the Iran-contra affair, says one of the things he discussed with Defense officials Harold Rhode and Larry Franklin at meetings in Rome in December 2001 (and in Paris last June with only Rhode) was regime change in Iran. . .In Congress, investigations into the Ghorbanifar story have sparked partisan tensions. Democrats want to know if the Ghorbanifar contacts are evidence of "rogue" espionage by a secretive Pentagon unit that allegedly dealt with controversial Iraqi exile Ahmad Chalabi; Republicans want to know whether the CIA refused to meet with potential informants merely because the middleman—Ghorbanifar—was someone the agency distrusted. A Defense official says any discussion that Ghorbanifar had with Pentagon experts about regime change was a "one-way conversation."

10 posted on 09/06/2004 1:51:13 PM PDT by Fedora
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