Posted on 09/05/2004 7:12:33 PM PDT by wdkeller
You'll love this one. Sarcasm intended. Make sure to read the comments section. Ping!
"Let's be honest--no one can say there won't be events like this, or 9-11, under a second Bush presidency. But does anyone think the chances of such an event happening here are LESSENED with Kerry in charge?"
I feel comfortable with President Bush in office. A lot more secure than if MR. KERRY was in there. How about you? ;-)
Bob Barr is usually right on, and in this case I would not doubt his facts. But he needs to look at reality, Bush or Kerry? That is not even a question worthy of debate.
Those of us who vote for big-government Republicans with a gun to our heads are tired of waiting for a conservative.
Since only a revolution will change the runaway growth in government, maybe we should simply elect the most socialist of candidates and proceed directly to the upheaval. Let's bypass the slow strangulation death of socialism brought upon us by our "friends" who happily stab us in the front after we vote for them.
When you are in an abusive relationship, you stop praying for the abuser to reform. You get out of the relationship.
The party system itself is dysfunctional because the two major parties are so close on growing government, there is virtually no difference. In fact, Clinton gave us less growth in non-defense government spending (by a mile).
The Republican Party is a disgrace and is off track.
Thanks for bringing to my attention, 33. While some of Barr's criticisms are valid and have been made many times on this forum, unfortunately the overriding issue of our day is terrorism and the war thereon. Anything that undermines it -- such as electing Kerry -- makes all the other things we want that much less attainable. People forget now that some of the same kinds of criticisms were directed at Reagan by conservatives of the 99 44/100 percent pure variety in the 80s. Seems like it's always easy to avoid compromise so long as you are not running for public office.
I'm not disputing the facts. Just being pugilistic to those that want to complain and then sit out the election, while sulking about conservatism.
Yes, I would agree that changes need to be made in regards to shrinking government. However, we ain't gonna get it with Kerry, period. Or Clinton. Or Gore. Or Dean. Or any Democrat. Of course President Bush can't be blamed for everything. The Supreme Court and Republican Senators are to blame for a lot as well.
"Seems like it's always easy to avoid compromise so long as you are not running for public office."
No, kidding! No matter what you do, there are going to be people that are unhappy with any conservative president. As if they somehow have the wisdom of the ages with less facts thant he sitting president.
What really galls me is that these are the kinds of people that armchair quarterback the day of the game, approves of the calls, until one call the coach makes looses the team the game. And then, on Monday, go tell everyone how much their team sucks. It just gets tiresome. Always gloom and doom.
"The Republican Party is a disgrace and is off track."
Then go do something about it.
As the old saying goes, nothing is impossible for the person who doesn't have to do it.
Yep. Now I believe you're up past your bedtime. I don't need to stress how important it is for you older personnel to get your rest. :) Hehe!
Have a good night!
Get my rest? I'm just heading out to the clubs. Sleep tight, my friend, I'll tell you about it later.
Temper, temper. What I heard the other night was a man promising more healthcare, more education, and more of our tax dollars spent on wasteful programs, up to and including 'faith based' initiatives. But don't you worry one bit. Karen Hughes has already said what 'conservatism' means now.
Grinchy old conservatism of the past. You mean Reagan was a grinch in Karen Hughes eyes? He wanted to abolish the Dept of Education. Wow, new 'conservatives' will throw anybody under the bus with namecalling won't they? It's fun changing words around isn't it? 20 years, if that long, from now 'conservatism' will mean what the Europeans consider conservative. Won't that be interesting? No 2nd Amendment, limits on the other Amendments, higher taxes to pay for more wasteful spending passed by a Republican Congress and signed by a Republican President. Don't worry yourself though. You can still call yourself a 'conservative' I guess then too. Keep voting for the party. It's working. Really it is...
I'm also sorry that 9/11 has somehow become a litmus test for conservatism. Some of the parties responsible are on the run in Afghanistan, as well they should be. Other parties that may have had a hand in 9/11 (namely the Saudis) are called 'allies'. Forgive me if I doubt the wisdom of the incursion into Iraq. Far be it from me to be conservative and not be so gung ho for war and question the foreign policy of this nation of states.
Don't worry yourself one bit about me not voting. I will vote even though your own words betray just why the citizens of the respective states should not be voting for President and instead be left to the state legislatures to determine where electoral votes would go. And as I said I will not vote for Kerry
"Don't worry yourself one bit about me not voting. I will vote even though your own words betray just why the citizens of the respective states should not be voting for President and instead be left to the state legislatures to determine where electoral votes would go. And as I said I will not vote for Kerry"
You want it perfect. Then go do something about it. And don't tell me about litmus tests and conservatism. And for your information, I was keeping my cool. But you probably never read my earlier posts. I, for one, said it wasn't perfect and I have my grievances. But I can tell you this. If there is no America to speak of, then there's no reason to bother about whether we abolish the Department of Education, which I am in total agreement of.
But you're too smart for me.
Oh, one more thing. I ain't worried about whether you're voting or not. To be honest, it's your choice. And no I don't like it, but you've got to be realisitic with yourself. One election at a time. That's why Clinton was an aberration.
I feel comfortable with President Bush in office. A lot more secure than if MR. KERRY was in there. How about you? ;-)
I'm guessing that's a rhetorical question. I'm from Massachusetts, so I know Kerry better than most people here. I think I'd rather chop off my foot rather than vote for Kerry.
Refusing to vote is the single most pathetic thing a person can do. Damn few people throughout history have been fortunate enough to live under a government that allowed them a voice, many have died to ensure you can have a voice, staying mute is an insult to all those that died to give you a voice and all those that were never allowed a voice in their lives. You whine about Bush not upholding the spirit of the Constitution then in reply you blow snot on it, the spirit of the Constitution is a participatory government, refusal to participate makes you everything you accuse Bush of being and worse.
They don't want to be in a party and they're not. They just want to be obnoxious malcontents. After a couple democrat party extreme defeats, they may split into two parties. Maybe the "blacks" and the "greens/reds". Once that happens, the malcontents can split from the Republicans and we'll have some real fun elections.
Maybe you should've said you'd rather be in Abu Ghraib prison than vote for Kerry. :) HeHe!
Maybe you should've said you'd rather be in Abu Ghraib prison than vote for Kerry. :) HeHe!
Wearing underwear on my head vs. four years leading to the destruction of our nation?
I'll take it.
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