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Sex crimes may be starting younger [Schools report 'fairly graphic' acts in kindergarten]
Houston Chroncile ^ | 9/5/04 | LIZ AUSTIN

Posted on 09/05/2004 4:31:47 PM PDT by freedom44

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To: sandbar
"So is it getting to the point that you go to jail if you are a child and play doctor?? "

OK. Here is something to think about. Why should an instance of two children having sex even be a crime?

And is there a perpetrator and a victim and how do you tell one from the other?

21 posted on 09/05/2004 7:08:14 PM PDT by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947, but some are still hoping!)
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To: Artist
The Dallas school district, however, handled about 25 cases of kindergartners who committed sexual assault last year, Claxton said. While he declined to release details, "suffice it to say there were some fairly graphic things that happened last year involving younger kids," he said.

Homeschool bump.

22 posted on 09/06/2004 5:55:53 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Tax-chick
That is what the "Sex Positive" agenda pushes for. The Homosexual Agenda is just the battering ram they use to strike down sex laws.

Age of consent laws mean little today since there is seldom statutory rape prosecution by a DA if both participants are underage or even if one of them is over AOC or even over 18 as long they are both "near" each other in ages.

The Supreme Court sodomy law decision also lowered the age of consent for homosexual act in several states to the age of consent for heterosexual contact. So much for the BS that it would just affect "consenting ADULTS".

The Sex Positive reformers want to indoctrinate children in the ways of sex. They believe that if you practice abstinence you are unhealthy since you deny yourself sex just as they say homosexual "denies" their sexual desires. It is why I counter that by saying polygamy must become the law of the land if homosexuals can marry because otherwise bisexuals have to choose "male or female" when they want BOTH.

In some areas, the sex positive proponents have actually tried to encourage children to "play doctor" in a controlled environment.

"Education" to them means much more than anatomy and disease/birth control. It means techniques and sexual practices/pairings. "Taste the smorgasbord and see what you like."
23 posted on 09/13/2004 8:37:42 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: freedom44

Soon the schools won't even have to bother teaching "sex ed" - the kids will be teaching them ... maybe that's been the plan.


24 posted on 09/13/2004 8:50:03 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry accused countless soldiers of committing war crimes that he himself never witnessed . . .)
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To: freedom44

That's terrible. The 12 year old molesting a 4 year old girl at a fast food restaurant happened in Houston. It was news that time. Man, what is with today's kids???????? Seriously, I never heard such a thing like that back then.


25 posted on 09/13/2004 8:51:04 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: weegee

I've only started seeing the term "Sex Positive" recently, but I already don't like it! Not that one's husband would care for "sex negative," but that's another issue ...

As I mentioned on another thread, I don't think any sexual activity among youngsters is appropriate, even if both participants are minors. Obviously, there's some variation - some 17-year-olds are very mature, and ready for marriage and parenthood - but most teens simply don't the reasoning capacity to make good decisions about anything so permanent.

Elementary kids aren't coming up with this stuff on their own. It's got to come from somewhere in their environment - home, friends, daycare, school. Grounds for a child neglect case - unless the authorities are "sex positive" too!


26 posted on 09/14/2004 4:45:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: Tax-chick
The operators of this site were hounded out of their online advocacy but they have provided some "helpful" links to others pushing the "Sex Positive" agenda. Of course the controversial "Go Ask Alice" site is there.

http://www.allaboutsex.org/

In the Sex Positive world, it seems that there are no moral judgments made and no acts prohibited although rape seems to be frowned upon. Rape fantasies are okay with them though.
27 posted on 09/14/2004 7:55:21 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: weegee

Ick. I'm going to have to discuss our internet security with my husband, again. I shouldn't even have been able to access those sites!


28 posted on 09/14/2004 8:55:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: Tax-chick
The American Library Association (ALA) has been persuading libraries to add links to "Go Ask Alice" on their youth pages.

There was a flare up in Houston when they had to defend that decision at the Houston Public Library.

The threat is real. Liberals promote sexual activity at all ages. The ALA does not believe in the concept of "age appropriate" materials or activities; if someone asks for it "it is the right age".

I don't post the links to gross people out (and I certainly don't post details of the activities or sexual practices); I post a "white rabbit" that people can follow to learn for themselves about this hidden agenda that lurks behind the homosexual agenda.
29 posted on 09/14/2004 10:54:34 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: weegee

Not blaming you! But it seems like the "parental control" on our network should have blocked those.

I'm glad you mentioned the library. I'll have to take a look at the "homework and research" computers next time we visit. Some of the employees have already shown hostility towards the idea that children should have limited access to any materials ... although they seem to follow the rules when a child presents a restricted card.


30 posted on 09/14/2004 12:38:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: freedom44
As a society, we ply our kids with sex and violence in the form of TV shows, movies, video games, and music. No wonder they are more likely to be 'sexually aggressive' at such an early age.

Garbage in, garbage out.

31 posted on 09/14/2004 12:40:47 PM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: Southern62
"I just don't believe 2 first graders can physically have sex"

My husband works for the local school transportation department. One of the bus drivers caught a first grade girl giving, um, oral sex to a third grade boy.

The parents didn't want to believe it, of course. But I would be willing to bet they frequently watch R rated movies (or worse) with their little girl and think nothing of it.

32 posted on 09/14/2004 12:45:42 PM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: OldEagle
"Why should an instance of two children having sex even be a crime?"

Depends on the ages of the children involved. A 12 year old assaulting a 4 year old is a crime in my book. Yeah, he needs counseling - but he also needs to know he has committed a crime.

He does it again, he goes down the river.

33 posted on 09/14/2004 12:48:18 PM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: Tax-chick

Filter software considers these sites to be "educational" and "kid safe".

Additionally, the ALA's website reportedly told kids how to circumvent such filtering.


34 posted on 09/14/2004 12:56:32 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: Max Combined

You are right about homeschooling. We decided to pull our daughter out of school for a similar reason. A kindergarten student was exposing himself to her and others during their lunch break. He was a student that was constantly in trouble and never taken out of the classroom for very long. We were fortunate to be able to take her out and begin homeschooling her and it has been a real benefit.


35 posted on 09/14/2004 1:12:02 PM PDT by spot_the_cat
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To: weegee

OH, great. Thanks for the information :-). Our children are not at this point looking to challenge us on what we do for their protection, but I'm concerned by what they could run into accidentally while do searches for approved purposes.

The software is supposed to help with that ... shoot, it kept me from going to NRA.com to update my address!


36 posted on 09/14/2004 1:16:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: MEGoody
I didn't mean to inquire about an assault. I should have suggested similar ages and no assault. For sure it would be misbehavior, but a crime?
37 posted on 09/14/2004 4:57:16 PM PDT by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947, but some are still hoping!)
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To: freedom44
Some sexually aggressive children also are victims of sexual abuse, she said.

That'd be my guess - or they are witnesses to it in their own house,which amounts to the same thing.

38 posted on 09/14/2004 5:09:38 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: spot_the_cat

Good heavens


39 posted on 09/14/2004 5:10:21 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: freedom44
"The problem may be worsening because children are exposed to more graphic sexual imagery at a younger age through racier television programming, the increased availability of Internet pornography and declining parental supervision, clinical psychologist Toni Cavanagh Johnson said. Some sexually aggressive children also are victims of sexual abuse, she said."

I don't suppose 'fisting' and other sexual familiarity lessons in school by perp organizations cannot be faulted for teaching children to be sexually pre-occupied years ahead of their age and sexually pro-active well beyond their ability to consider the concept of self-control and self-responsibility.

40 posted on 09/14/2004 5:21:13 PM PDT by Eastbound ( "Ne'er a Scrooge or a Patsy be")
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