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Bedlam in Beslan, or the North Ossetia Peace Process
Sept. 5 2004 | Steven Plaut

Posted on 09/05/2004 10:42:42 AM PDT by yonif

As all the horrific details come out about the Islamofascist massacre of children in Beslan, a number of thoughts come to mind.

1. Throughout the reporting of the massacre, not a single news medium I read or heard spent time lecturing the listeners about how this carnage must prove how just the Chechen terrorists' cause is, else why would they be so "desperate".

2. No news media talking heads nor Op-Ed writers hectored readers by demanding that the Russians now address the underlying causes of the anger out (sic) them by the terrorists.

3. Michael Lerner did not devote a piece in Tikkun magazine to the need to feel the pain of the Chechen murderers.

4. Chechnya in fact has a far more legitimate claim to independence from Russia than the Palestinians have for any form of "self-determination". The Chechens are not seeking the destruction of Russia, while the Palestinians are seeking the annihilation of Israel. The Chechens are non-Russian Moslems, culturally and linguistically alien to Russia. The "Palestinians" are members of Syrian and Lebanese families who migrated into the land of Israel starting in the late 19th century. Moreover, unlike the Palestinians, the Chechens do not have 22 other Chechen states they can choose from or to which they can move. Having noted all this, let us also note that the massacre of children by the Chechen nazis probably put an end altogether to the willingness of anyone in the world to reconsider independence for Chechnya. The Chechens forfeited any legitimate claims they might have had to independence. Contrast this with the world's reaction to Palestinian barbarism, who murdered 1500 Israelis, many of them children, just since signing the eternal Oslo peace accord foreswearing violence.

5. At least four of the Chechen terrorists were captured alive and summarily executed by the Russians. No bleeding hearts nor do-gooders screamed in moral indignation that Russia violated the Miranda rights of those terrorists. No one demanded the terrorists be given expensive lawyers and allowed to have their cases heard by civil courts, in contrast with the movement on behalf of the Guantanamo terrorists. No one from the Israeli Labor Party proposed granting the terrorists the Kremlin and half of Moscow.

6. Nazis have always made a point of specially targeting children. The German Nazis went out of their way to murder Jewish children. The Palestinian nazis make special efforts to target Israeli children. The Chechen nazis learned from the Palestinians.

7. The news services continue to call the murderers "militants" for the simple reason that calling them terrorists would force the news people to call Palestinian murderers terrorists and that might upset the Arabs. It is essential for the networks to call Palestinian murderers of Jewish children "militants", for this is how the news services signal their "neutrality" in the Middle East conflict between murdering Palestinians and innocent Jewish victims. It is also their subtle way of signaling how justified they see the Palestinian murderers, similar to their practice of counting the number of dead Palestinian terrorists and suicide bombers in any death toll from any atrocity. (Will the dead Chechens and their Arab sidekicks be counted by the BBC and CNN in the final Beslan body count?) So witness the extent to which the news services will go to maintain their Orwellistic support for Palestinian terrorism. Evidently, the only act of savagery the BBC is willing to denounce as "terror" is when the IRA activists planted a bomb at the BBC headquarters in London.

8. Not a single Russia leftist raced to Beslan to demonstrate his or her solidarity with the terrorists. Not a single Russian leftist professor wrote an Op-ED justifying the kidnapping and murders. Not a single Russian leftist poet composed a poem celebrating the suffering of the terrorists, and poems written by Chechen pro-terror poets are not being introduced into the Russian school curriculum. Russian leftist professors are not organizing an international boycott of Beslan and Ossetia colleges in solidarity with the terrorists while demanding that the Beslan taxpayers continue to subsidize them..

9. Russian newspapers are not united in expressing understanding for the struggle of the Chechen terrorists. They are not lecturing readers about how there are no military solutions to the problems of terrorism. They are not demanding goodwill gestures from the Kremlin so that the Chechen terrorists will feel their self-esteem is no longer threatened.

10. But the most important thought I am sure you shared with me as the story of the massacre unfolded was this: Why has not Israel rounded up the ISM = International Solidarity Movement squad of cheerleaders for terrorism and shipped them off forthwith to defend the homes of the family members of the dead Chechen terrorists from the enraged Russian troops that will be entering Chechnya?


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: caucasuc; caucasus; israel; ossetia; peace; russia; waronterrorism

1 posted on 09/05/2004 10:42:48 AM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
The Chechen nazis learned from the Palestinians.

Seems I remember the Israelis caught some bombers who's intended target was a school.

2 posted on 09/05/2004 10:48:23 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

Yup. Some months ago. In the 1970s, Arab terrorists did take over a school. 22 Jews lost their lives, following the IDF effort to try to take down the terrorists.


3 posted on 09/05/2004 10:50:48 AM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: yonif

Actally, I've read a lot of commentary about how this event proves the failure of Putin's Chechen policy. Very similar in tone to the talk about Sharon.

As if somehow the attackers' atrocities are their fault.


4 posted on 09/05/2004 11:01:48 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: yonif
You know why the talking heads/scribes aren't interested? They don't want to acknowledge the Islamic-fascist thread that runs through all the middle-eastern heathen states!

Islamo-fascism runs free in Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran... it stays in hiding in Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon. It is a growing rot left over from centuries past. It knows it cannot survive in the new global age and is fighting to spread its miserable existence.

It is a rabid dog... and the only way to deal with a rabid dog is to destroy it!

5 posted on 09/05/2004 11:10:29 AM PDT by johnny7 (“C'mon... you sons-'o-bitches wanna live forever?!” -'Fighting' Dan Daley USMC)
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To: Restorer

Comparing the Chechens and Palestenians is like comparing pig fat and pig manure.


6 posted on 09/05/2004 11:13:55 AM PDT by ChinaThreat
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To: yonif
Oh I think Russia is taking some of the same crap on this one as Israel has. Here are some excerpts of responses to the Beslan massacre.

From The Telegraph = "Difficult though it may be for President Putin to admit, it is useless to pretend that Chechen terror can be defeated without the achievement of a comprehensive peace settlement in Chechnya. It is equally useless to pretend that a comprehensive peace settlement can be achieved if the Russians refuse to negotiate with any Chechens other than the ones they have appointed themselves."

"Swiss newspaper Basler Zeitung (Basel, Switzerland) - "The demands of hostage-takers that Russian troops pull out of Chechnya are absolutely legitimate."

"Danish newspaper Politiken - "It’s far from being the matter of «Russian fight against international terrorism», as Putin is declaring. Arabs used the restless situation in Chechnya, but international terrorism is not the reason for the conflict. If international terrorism must be fought, the same should be done to Russian state terrorism too."

French newspaper Le Figaro - compares Bush’s policies in Iraq and Putin’s policies in Chechnya, and says with indignation that they both act from the position of force.

Swedish periodical "Svenska Dagbladet" - Chechens do have the right to self-determination.

Austrian newspaper Wiener Zeitung (Vienna)- "After the bloody slaughter in Beslan Putin has no choice but to proceed to negotiations with political wing of separatists, which had to take place a long time ago".

7 posted on 09/05/2004 11:17:48 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: yonif
The Chechen nazis learned from the Palestinians.

Sorry. No dice on this one.

chechnya's industry

I have not yet read of Palis, brutal as they are - and comparison is not my issue but the issue of the author here - the Palis have not yet kidnapped thousands of people, many children as young as toddlers, videotaped their mutilation and sent the films to the parents.

I don't think the Palis ran several human slave trade markets openly and with much acceptance.

When it comes to evil, the chechens were doing just fine on their own quite some time ago.

8 posted on 09/05/2004 11:22:06 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Those Arabs have done some of the stuff. You might recall the murder of 4 children and their pregnant mother. The terrorists video taped their murder. Regarding hostage taking, on the scale of Russia this has never happened, but in 1974 Arab terrorists took over a school for 13 hours, before IDF troops stormed the building. In the end 22 people were murdered by the terrorists.

I don't think the Palis ran several human slave trade markets openly and with much acceptance.

The "Palestinians" probably not. But the Arab world surely does, and continues to allow slavery in their countries.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1561310239/104-8914692-1050328?v=glance

Nonetheless, the terrorists and their infrastructure in both societies must come to an end.

9 posted on 09/05/2004 11:26:31 AM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: yonif

It was that museum of the bombed pizza parlor that most reminded me of the chechen lowlife mind.


10 posted on 09/05/2004 11:28:43 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
There seems to be aline that the palis will not cross. They don't perpetrate acts that would cause casualties in the thousands. They don't blow up buildings, they blow up busses and Pizzerias. They don't blow up synagogues. This may be because of how they Izzies deploy their defense resources, or it may be that they don't want to execute an attack that will provoke the Israelis to wipe them from the face of the earth.

They knowthink that as long as they keep the msm ontheir side they can keep the game going indefinitely. I say that there is going to be a different world on November 3, 2004, and the game will end shortly thereafter..

11 posted on 09/05/2004 12:21:57 PM PDT by johnb838 (Islamists: monsters who are fed by the blood of children)
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To: MarMema

"the Palis have not yet kidnapped thousands of people, many children as young as toddlers, videotaped their mutilation and sent the films to the parents."

Do you doubt that they would if they could? The armed Israeli citizenry and the vigilance of the IDF have so far prevented it.


12 posted on 09/05/2004 1:51:43 PM PDT by Pete98
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To: MarMema

"The Chechen nazis learned from the Palestinians.
Sorry. No dice on this one.
"

They both suck!


13 posted on 09/05/2004 1:56:10 PM PDT by rang1995
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To: yonif
Why has not Israel rounded up the ISM = International Solidarity Movement squad of cheerleaders for terrorism and shipped them off forthwith to defend the homes of the family members of the dead Chechen terrorists from the enraged Russian troops that will be entering Chechnya?

Good idea.

14 posted on 09/05/2004 4:10:35 PM PDT by happygrl
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