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To: Snapple

"The Chechens do not all support these extremists"

Balony! If the Chechens do not support these Arabs coming in then THEY need to take care of them
But because they are fellow Muslims they accept their depravity
The Chechens can fight the Russians but not the Arabs coming in to 'help' them?
The only way I would believe this if the Chechens began waging a war against the Arabs in their midst.
As for a 'genocidal war' erupting, what do you consider killing children is?
No, this is more, 'we can't overreact' nonsense, which is exactly what the Muslims want.
They support the Arabs who did this thus they are as responsible for it.
You are for us or the terrorists.
As for the prisoner being killed by the citizens, so what!
The SOB probably figured he would get the EU to come and beg for his worthless life, or some other terror group would take more hostages to free their 'noble warriors'
These are the same people who take to the streets when one of their worthless Mosques are in danger (it is alright for them to use the Mosques to fire out of but we cannot shoot in)


55 posted on 09/05/2004 4:57:51 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration

Most Chechens are just worn out. You say the Chechens should handle it. Chechnya is ruled by Russia. The Russians want it that way so they have to handle it. they are the authorities.

The politics of that area is very complicated. The Chechens were deported by Stalin and returned later.

They have several groups that don't like Russian control but not all are these kind of terrorists.

Many Chechens don't like the Russians but could accept Russian rule if they had some control over their lives.They don't necessarily want to be ruled by terrorists.

It is very complicated. You can read some of the different Chechen perspectives at www.rferl.org They have articles about this.


56 posted on 09/05/2004 5:05:45 AM PDT by Snapple
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To: fortheDeclaration

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2004/09/fb44e811-3fc5-4969-acaa-0e0872d7a80b.html

Here is some background on Chechnya. The main site is www.rferl.org

It is Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty.


57 posted on 09/05/2004 5:11:16 AM PDT by Snapple
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To: fortheDeclaration

The Russians seem to deliberately tar all Chechens with the Al Qaeda brush. The Russian security says there wer 10 Arabs in the school. People in the town dispute this.
If you have a chance check the info at www.rferl.org

"Even before the 3 September bloodbath, Western press commentaries were arguing that the sole hope for ending the war in Chechnya lies in beginning negotiations with Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov, seen as representing the moderate wing of the Chechen resistance. But Putin's previous conflation of Maskhadov with terrorism and Al-Qaeda suggests the likelihood he would condone any such talks is remote. On 4 September, chechenpress.info reported that the FSB cordoned off the homes in Znamenskoe the previous day, and then arrested the elderly father of Maskhadov's wife Kusama, together with her sister and two brothers and their families, including small children."
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2004/09/fb44e811-3fc5-4969-acaa-0e0872d7a80b.html


59 posted on 09/05/2004 5:20:44 AM PDT by Snapple
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To: fortheDeclaration

The Russians wouldn't let a RFERL reporter to to Beslan.


http://www.rferl.org/releases/2004/09/265-020904.asp
RFE/RL's Babitsky Arrested At Moscow Airport Trying To Reach Site Of North Ossetia Hostage Standoff


(Prague, Czech Republic--September 2, 2004) RFE/RL Russian Service Correspondent Andrei Babitsky was harassed and detained today by police at Vnukovo Airport in Moscow, where he was attempting to fly to southern Russia to cover the ongoing hostage standoff at a school in Beslan, North Ossetia. Babitsky, who in January 2000 was abducted by Russian security officials and held incommunicado for 40 days because of his coverage of the war in Chechnya, has been released, but is due before a local magistrate tomorrow morning (September 3).

Babitsky was first detained at Vnukovo Airport while trying to board a flight from Moscow to the southern Russian city of Mineralnye Vody, from where he planned to continue on to Beslan. Police at the airport accused Babitsky of carrying explosives in his bag. After police searched the bag and found no explosives, Babitsky was released and continued on to await his flight.

While waiting to board the flight, Babitsky was approached by two young men who attempted to provoke a fight with him. Police arrested all three men, took them to the airport police station and then to a medical clinic, where Babitsky was subjected to blood tests on suspicion that he was drunk. Babitsky was eventually joined at the airport police station by his lawyer, who accompanied Babitsky to a local magistrate's office, where he was released pending resolution of his case.

Babitsky is not the only journalist to be harassed while attempting to travel to North Ossetia this week. Babitsky was to be accompanied on his flight to Mineralnye Vody by AFP correspondent Yana Dlugy, who was also stopped on suspicion of carrying explosives and as a result missed the flight. In addition, well-known Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya became seriously ill yesterday during a flight from Moscow to Rostov na Donu, from where she intended to go on to Beslan for her newspaper, "Novaya Gazeta." It is suspected that Politkovskaya, who is currently hospitalized in Rostov in serious, but stable condition, was poisoned during the flight.

Babitsky, an award-winning correspondent for RFE/RL's Russian Service, was abducted in January 2000 by Russian officials after complaining about his reporting on the war in Chechnya--reporting that was praised internationally as balanced and objective. Those officials then claimed to have exchanged Babitsky for several Russian prisoners of war -- an exchange that Babitsky said never took place. Russian officials released Babitsky after 40 days in detention, after planting false documents on him. It is these documents which formed the basis of charges of violating Russian passport regulations that were brought against Babitsky. During judicial proceedings, Babitsky was released on his own recognizance but restricted to Moscow until August 2000. Babitsky now lives and works in Prague.


Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty is a private, international communications service to Eastern and Southeastern Europe, Russia, the Caucasus, Central Asia, the Middle East, and Southwest Asia, funded by the U.S. Congress through the Broadcasting Board of Governors.




60 posted on 09/05/2004 5:26:01 AM PDT by Snapple
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