Posted on 09/05/2004 1:16:11 AM PDT by N. Beaujon
"I am sure something like this is in the Koran, but Christians and Jews aren't considered infidels"
They aren't?
Every non-muslim is considered an infidel
You see what they did to the Nepalise because they were Buddhist?
I am not saying all Muslims are bad people
Most do not adhere to the tenets found in the Koran
Yet, Islam is a bad religion that does teach that it is alright to kill in the name of spreading Islam.
No other religion teaches anything compatable.
Below is from the Koran
"And kill them wherever you find them...and fight them until there is no more 'finah'(disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah"
Sura 2:190, 193
Verily, those who disbelieve in Allah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allah and His messengers (by believing in Allah and disbelieving in His messengers) saying 'we believe in some but reject others' and wish to adopt a way in between.
They are in truth disbelievers. We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment
Sura 5:150-151
Traditional Muslims consider Christians and Jews to be people of the book, not infidels. Infidels were originally the pagans in the area I think.
The Wahabbis interprete the Muslim tests differently than the normal Muslims do.
"Traditional Muslims consider Christians and Jews to be people of the book, not infidels. Infidels were originally the pagans in the area I think."
No, an infidel is anyone who does not believe that Muhammad is God's prophet and worship Allah alone.
You are a 'disbeliever'
"O you believe! Take not the Jew and the Christians as "Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but 'Auliya' of each other.And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliya), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are "Zalmun"(Polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust)
In other words Jews and Christians.
Yes, the Koran calls Jews and Christians 'people of the scriptures' but that does not make them any less 'infidels' since they reject the additional revelation of Islam.
"Whosoever disbelieves in "Taghut' and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break"
What is 'Taghut'?
"The word 'Taghut' covers a wide range of meanngs. It means anything worshipped other then the Real God (Allah), i.e. all the false deites. It may be Satan, devils, idols, stones sun, stars, angels human beings e.g. Messengers of Allah, who were falsely worshipped and taken as 'Taghut'
(Surah 2:256 footnote 11)
Thus, you see that Christians (who believe Jesus Christ is God Incarnate and worship Him as such) are lumped together with pagan worship.
Don't buy into the media/scholar propaganda about 'moderate' Islam
Islam is only 'quiet' when it knows it cannot defeat the 'infidel'.
"The Wahabbis interprete the Muslim tests differently than the normal Muslims do."
The Wahabbis are taking the Koran at what it says.
We should do likewise.
Welcome to the party - better late than never. Hope the French and Democrats are listening.
I am going to let the government go after the terrorists not all Muslims.
I don't believe in class warfare.
I repeat that normal Muslims don't consider Christians and Jews infidels. During Mohamed's time, the infidels were the pagans of the area.
bttt
If you are right, Putin has only three choices: Mokaa, Mad-ina or both. Which one do you pick? Or rather, which one would GW pick?
"The thing I noticed in the various pictures of Putin visiting the survivors in the hospital is that he didn't show any emotion at all."
Russians have different cultural expectations of how people act in that kind of situation than we do.
"We never disregard this important time in the church. There are services all along from 3 days to 40 days. It would be completely inappropriate to seek revenge during this time."
Then the following 40 day periods will add up to years, and more will die.
Duh.
You know...I feel as though the events of the past year or so have been dedicated to smearing Bush and proving him wrong via books, movies, grandstanding at the 9/11 commissions, and a slew of negative news out of Iraq, etc. etc. But in the past two weeks or so, it seems as though all of the critics are slowly but surely being silenced and having to put their foot in their mouth. It really makes me happy to see Bush starting to get some of the credit and respect that he has deserved over the past year or so. Things are going well guys!!
Noticed how as it was after 911, the focus and critiquing is on Putin, not the terrorists, who they are and what can be done to eradicate them.
But what if (God Forbid) They attacked every 39 days?
I pray that Russia can keep this from happening again, and for the parents who lost their children. Very, Very sad.
Very, very sad!!! We need to help them fight this if they want our help.
"Fight against those (4) ...who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the "Jizyah" with willing submissions and feel themselves subdued (Surah 9:29)
What you believe or don't believe is unimportant to the fact of what the Koran teaches.
Islam is at war with Christianity and every other faith and has been since its inception.
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