'They shot at our backs'

Sydney Morning Herald ^ | September 5, 2004

[Vision]

I'm not clear on exactly what happened. Did the Russian forces storm the school or did a terrorist blow something up? Or both?

[JohnHuang2]

A very special place is reserved in Hell for these scumbags which CNN still calls 'fighters'.

[CJ Wolf]

I agree, I can't even express my anger.

[ChinaThreat]

I think a bomb went off that was taped to a wall creating a hole in the wall. People started running, the terrorists started shooting wildly and then the special forces responded.

The bottom line is there is Hell to pay now. I can't wait to see the paychecks get cashed in.

[xJones]

This is going to be far worse for the Chechyans. The Russians got even big time with the Germans for their atrocities in WWII. And attacking Russian school children is really asking for big reprisals. It's the Arabs terrorists that came in with the Chechyans that had to be behind the planning, though. Who knows how this will all pan out?

[aposiopetic]

People were praying all the time and those that didn't know how to pray, we taught them.

A true work of mercy.

[church16]

I don't know where its going, but its going to be bad. The ball is in the Russians court, they are big, mean and motivated. My guess; 15:1 kill ratio. Minimum. This may make Iran's nuclear reactor go away sooner rather than later. The pace, she is a picking up. Wherever the WOT is going, we're going to get there faster due to this world changing event that has been not-so-well covered by the MSM.

[struwwelpeter]

A friend who lived in that area wrote me a little about the events over there:

A na schet chechni.... a podderzhivayu tvoe mnenie. U lyudey v krovi i v gennakh voyna, za stol'ko vekov voevat'. I na samom dele, slozhno prinimat' kakoe libo reshenie dlya pravitel'stva i lyudey kotorye s takim stalknulis'. Mne kazhetsya, chto vse dumayut i nadeyustsya na razum, a zdes'... prosto instinkt... kak u zhivotnykh. Im vse ravno kogo oni vzyali v zalozhniki... Ya ponimayu zhenshchin, kotorye idut na takoe (u nikh ubili brata ili muzha) i vse taki ehto ne povod delat' takie postupki... Odnim slovom, Kavkaz, gortsy...

"Well, about Chechnya... I support your opinion. People have war in their blood and in their genes, so many centuries of fighting. And at the same time, it's hard for the goverment or people who have run into this to decide what to do. It seems to me that everyone thinks and hopes for reason, while here... simply instinct... like animals. They could care less who they've taken hostage... I understand women who go into this (someone killed a brother or husband) but all the same it's no excuse for such... In a word - the Caucasus, highlanders..."

Okolo nas, gde ya rosla, bylo selenie sotoyashchee iz odnikh chechentsev. Dlya menya bylo diko videt'... zhenshchiny molchat, khodyat postoyanno v platkakh, za muzhchinami. A kak vyzyvayushchie veli sebya mal'chiki... Oni koroli, vokrug nikh ves' mir krutit'sya... "Chistilishche"... ya ne smotrela. Vernee ya nachala smotret' i vyklyuchila... Ne smogla. Ya boeviki i uzhastiki prakticheski ne smotryu. Redko smotryu takie sobytiya, esli sploshnoe nasilie pokazyvayut... ya ukhozhu. U menya serdtse zamiraet i nachinayut sploshnikom slezy idti.

"Where I grew up, nearby there was a village made up entirely of Chechnyans. For me it looked so wild... women were silent, went about always with scarves, behind the men. But oh how challenging the boys conducted themseves... they were kings, the whole world revolved around them... I didn't see 'Pugatory' (my note: film about the first Chechyan war). More truthfully, I started to watch and turned it off... I couldn't. I practically don't watch war and horror films. Rarely I watch news such as this, if they show outright violence... I leave. My heart dies and tears come."

[Domangart]

The scope of this incident meant that there was no good outcome. Part of the problem appears to be culture. The gov't is watching out not the people. It's almost like they have no imput. There are shades of Columbine (sp) here in that they staged much of the munitions. so we can't say much about being watchfull. They were killing people from the first minute. Our rules would have been to attack. Just be thankfull that you were not there. Guilt would be present for the rest of your life and yet. it was not in your control.

[niki]

When hell came calling at Beslan's School No 1

This is the most informative of the articles I read.

[walford]

When you're amongst the Chosen, you can do no wrong. If shooting children in the back ultimately eradicates the Infidel, then you are securing your place in the afterlife by doing the bidding of the Divine.

Funny that they don't seem to think that the Almighty is powerful enough to handle these things w/o human help.

What sort of people would find such a theological approach attractive? The pious, or...?

[Aracelis]

Angry parent: "Give me a gun, I'll get them."

And I would go with you...

[Andy from Beaverton]

Everything I heard is that one of the black widows accidentally set of her bomb. At the Moscow theater, the Chechens men thought the black widows were so stupid that they didn't give them the batteries to operate the explosive belts. After that fiasco, the Chechens keep their hands on the trigger at all times. That is another reason no food or water was allowed in. They did not want to be poisoned again.

[elder5]

The Oregonian (Portland,OR) is calling them "Militants"
I guess thats PC for Killers, Beasts, Terrorists.

[Travis McGee]

We're going to find out, sooner or later,

If Abdul will pray, to a glowing crater.

[Joe Brower]

I tell ya, Trav, if I wasn't already over-age, in addition to having a wife and kids to care for, I'd be signing up again right now and going for the hairiest, scariest duty available. Things are at the point where one's own life no longer matters.

[Travis McGee]

Let's keep our powder dry, it'll come here.