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Suffering Effects of 50's A-Bomb Tests
NY Times ^ | September 5, 2004 | SARAH KERSHAW

Posted on 09/04/2004 5:49:28 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: ko_kyi
Wasn't that the original speculation about the SL-1 meltdown?

It could have been. As Will Rogers used to day: "All I know is what I read in the newspapers." And as we've learned over the years, that can be unreliable and dangerous. I'm sure people who were directly involved at the site had much better information than the general public.

61 posted on 02/21/2006 11:03:40 AM PST by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: neverdem
Individual Dose and Risk Calculator for Nevada Test Site fallout
62 posted on 02/21/2006 11:16:07 AM PST by Prince Charles
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To: neverdem
Critics say that Governor Kempthorne and other officials, after initially expressing concern, have ignored the public health threat to Idaho residents. Nuclear watchdog groups have also questioned whether the officials' reluctance to press the issue was intended to protect Idaho's nuclear power industry, a major employer in the state

That's just stupid. Power plants have nothing to do with weapons testing.

63 posted on 02/21/2006 11:28:09 AM PST by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: Bernard Marx

Here is a Wikipedia entry you might enjoy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1


64 posted on 02/21/2006 12:47:08 PM PST by ko_kyi
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To: aruanan
If they're anything like Chernobyl, there's little effect. If they're anything like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there's a health benefit in increased longevity and decreased incidence of disease.

This is dealing with the ingestion of fallout. It isn't the same as the direct effects of the radiation. I think the data has shown quite conclusively that those in the fallout zone from this intense testing do suffer from a higher cancer rate. Helping pay some of those medical costs is the very least the country should do for them.

65 posted on 02/21/2006 12:53:31 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: ko_kyi

Very interesting. Thanks. The explanation sounds lots more reasonable than my newspaper version.


66 posted on 02/21/2006 1:04:26 PM PST by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: aruanan

"If they're anything like Chernobyl, there's little effect."

I think you need to do a little reading before you try and support a statement like that. I recommend you Google "Chernobyl Heart" and follow the links. Here's one for you right off the bat...

http://www.ccp-intl.org/chernobyl_heart.html

sheesh!


67 posted on 02/21/2006 1:07:12 PM PST by Bean Counter ("Stout Hearts!")
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I think you need to do a little reading before you try and support a statement like that.

Sheesh right back at you. I was quoting Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, a long- time member, and former Chairman, of UNSCEAR.
HEALTH EFFECTS OF THE CHERNOBYL ACCIDENT

In September 2000, the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) published its Report to the General Assembly, with Scientific Annexes, a document of some 1220 pages in two volumes. Annex J (vol. 2, pp. 453-551) deals with exposures and effects of the Chernobyl accident. Recently updated dosimetric findings in the regions of the former Soviet Union most highly contaminated by radioactive fallout, and an updated evaluation of the health effects of the Chernobyl accident, were discussed during the 50th session of UNSCEAR in Vienna between April 23rd and 27th 2001.

Apart from about 1800 thyroid cancer cases, with 99+% cured, registered in children and in some adults, there is no evidence of any major public health impact attributable to radiation exposure after the accident. There is no increase in overall cancer incidence or mortality or in non-malignant disorders that could be related to radiation exposure. The incidence of leukemia, which due to its short latency time is a good indicator of radiation harm, is not elevated among about 5 million inhabitants of the contaminated regions, nor among the evacuated persons or recovery operation workers. However, there is a widespread psychological reaction to the accident, due to fear of radiation, and not to the actual radiation dose received by individuals. These reactions lead to psychosomatic disorders and epidemic symptoms such as headache, depression, sleep disturbances, inability to concentrate and emotional imbalance, not unlike similar social reactions following major disasters of non-nuclear origin (such as floods, earthquakes or landslides).

The increase in the number of registered thyroid cancers is very likely due to a screening effect. The normal incidence of "occult" thyroid cancers (which, while not causing any visible clinical disturbance, are histologically malignant and aggressive) is very high in most countries (e.g., about 13,000 per 100,000 inhabitants in the United States). This number should be compared with the highest incidence of thyroid cancers recorded in the highly contaminated region of Bryansk (Russia), of 26.6 per 100,000 inhabitants. Document prepared for this year's session of UNSCEAR provide several similar examples of such screening effects, e.g. an increase in chronic lymphocyte leukemia, a disease known as not being caused by ionizing radiation.

Among the workers of the Chernobyl nuclear power stations and rescue operators, 30 persons died after having received a very high dose of ionizing radiation. No deaths directly attributable to exposure from the Chernobyl radiation have been found in the population of the contaminated regions. Cancer incidence rates over the most contaminated regions of Ukraine are found to be consistently lower than rates over the country as a whole. The incidence of solid cancers among Russian recovery operation workers is observed to be significantly lower than that in the general population.

This is to be expected. The whole-body radiation dose due to the Chernobyl fallout received during the past fifteen years by individuals in the most contaminated parts of the former Soviet Union (about 1 mSv per year) is ten to a hundred times lower than the dose of ionizing radiation from natural sources received by individuals in many regions of the world. Neither radiation-induced diseases nor any genetic disorders have ever been found in these regions. Genetic disorders have not been found even in the offspring of Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims exposed to a very high radiation dose.

Because governments of Belarus and Ukraine protested against low Chernobyl health effects estimated by UNSCEAR, on the recommendation of General Assembly UNSCEAR invited experts designated by the three affected countries to present their views. Only two countries sent their experts: Prof. J. Keningsberg (Belarus) and Prof. V.K. Ivanov (Russian Federation). They addressed UNSCEAR on 26 April, and both stated that they agree with the estimates presented in UNSCEAR 2000 Report.

This information was made available to SEPP by Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, a long- time member, and former Chairman, of UNSCEAR. He is with the Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warszawa, Poland. e-mail: jaworo@clor.waw.pl UNSCEAR was established by the General Assembly in 1955. It is now composed of 21 countries.

68 posted on 02/21/2006 7:47:39 PM PST by aruanan
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