What the war in Chechnya is all about

strategypage.com ^ | September 2, 2004 | Q & D Headlines

[silversky]

Japanese-Americans during WWII were interned

Destro's point is that tough situations warrant tough measures. It happened both in the US and Russia. If the Japs were "interned" to the Mojave dessert, so were the the Chechens to Siberia. Reservations and bulets for child killing Indians, why not for Chechens. The parity is quite obvious. Linguistic exercises are good, but off topic in this case.

[Destro]

Ok so the Japanese and the Chechens were interned since Central Asia was part of the USSR.

So the Chechens were internment not deported.

By the way internment means to confine. What English word would you use for the actual process of REMOVAL and TRANSPORTATION from their homes (with internment being the end result)?

[Destro]

Ok so the Japanese and the Chechens were interned since Central Asia was part of the USSR.

So the Chechens were "intered" not deported as wer ethe Japanese? (typo correction)

By the way internment means to confine. What English word would you use for the actual process of REMOVAL and TRANSPORTATION from their homes (with internment being the end result)?

[Bonaparte]

"Linguistic exercises are good, but off topic in this case."

It's hardly "off topic" to correct the false claim that Japanese-Americans were "deported" during WWII. They were not. Nor is it "off topic" to question the absurd claim that Arizona is somehow not part of America.

The "topic" was introduced by Destro and I stayed right on his topic. These citizens were subject to internment here in America.

And I'm well aware of Destro's other "point."

[Bonaparte]

The word used by the federal government, besides "internment," was evacuation.

It was certainly not "deportation."

[Bonaparte]

The word used by the federal government, besides "internment," was evacuation.

It was certainly not "deportation."

[Destro]

Ha! You evacuate when you are in danger and the Feds used it to mask their deed! What is the non propaganda word for forced unwilling removal?

[Bonaparte]

School's out for today, Destro. Your homework is to get yourself a dictionary and learn to use it.

[Destro]

I got a dictionary - what was done to the Japanese requires two words in the imperfect English language. "Forced removal" and then "internment". The Chechens were also forcibly removed and interned in Soviet Asia.

[Lancey Howard]

Good summary. Bookmarked.
Thank you for posting this.

It sounds like it is simply time for the Russians to incinerate the whole place. Ruthlessly and mercilessly.

[Bonaparte]

"I got a dictionary..."

Never would have guessed.

Nice chatting with you.

[Destro]

I am glad you got the joke. Glad to see you can't meet my challenge.

[FreeReign]

From Saudi Arabia. *Funded* by Saudi Arabian oil money.

Post #9: March 16, 2001 Three Chechens hijack a Russian airliner leaving Istanbul and divert it to Saudi Arabia. Saudi forces storm plane, killing one hijacker and two hostages.

[silversky]

They were not. Nor is it "off topic" to question the absurd claim that Arizona is somehow not part of America.

Absolutely. Such mistakes must be corrected. I often swap one word for another myself. Anyway, I'm glad we agree on your wording of the subject.

[American in Israel]

Sounds like another Palestine. Once Arafat was given autonomy over areas like he has in Gaza city, they quickly degenerated into gang warfare and Islamic fanaticism. The Pali's kill more of their own as 'collaborators' then they kill Jews.

A hell hole, from which all people who were born there that had enough fund fled. Now it is overrun by Jihadi from the surrounding Arab countries. Pity and pray for the poor ones, they are trapped in the most oppressive regime in modern history.

A regime that the UN loves and supports, and I suspect envys not a little bit.

[happygrl]

Thanks for this posting.

It is the most cogent explanation of what the Russians have been dealing with for several centuries. Chechens appear to be an unreformed bandit culture, now morphed into a terror culture. Apparently they long ago crossed any boundaries of normal civilizatons and have been a problem to their surrounding neighbors in their savagery. In that way, they resemble the Albanian crime syndicate.

I remember reading of the hospitals with their patients held hostage by these Chechens, as well the slaughter of Red Cross workers and beheading of British Engineers who were there to improve the telephone system. This presaged the slaughter of Nicholas Berg and many others who went to Iraq to help rebuild that country.

The terrorists in Iraq took their lessons from the Chechens.

The US recently gave one of these Chechen leaders refugee asylum.

What were we thinking ?

[Cronos]

Most Chechens practiced the more laid back Sufi form of Islam, but Besayev and his followers managed to convert a few thousand Chechens to the more hard nosed Wahhabi form of Islam.

Good point destro -- Sufiism isIslam softened by contact with Hinduism. While it's not great,it is comparatively better, much better, than Saudi Wahabbiiiism. The world is seeing the consequences of following Lawrence of Arabia and the BRitish helping the Wahabbis and Sauds to conquer Arabia. Before that, Makkah and Medina were controlled by the Hashemite dynasty -- now the rulers of Jordan.

[Cronos]

Chechen rebels kill at least 92 people, mostly law-enforcement officers and officials, while setting fire to police and government buildings around Nazran, the main city of the neighboring republic of Ingushetia.

That is strange -- from what I've read, Ingushetians are indistinguishable, ethnically and religiously, from Chechens. Almost like fratricide

[Cronos]

I would prefer giving them the choice the slammmies gave the Syrians and egyptians and others -- convert or die

[fetts]

Thank you for the information.