[Dr. Eckleburg]

Man finds God; God does not find man...

Hey, xzins, this is where Arminianism ends up. Hubris.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." -- Ephesians 2:8-10.

"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love." - Ephesians 1:4   

[xzins]

You know I don't believe that.

I believe that God enlightens.

It's that simple.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

but there's a good probability that you're fruitier than my great-aunt Lidia's Christmas Fruit Cake.

Welcome to my world