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Pastor's remarks spur relocation of voting sites (Minister made comments about Muslims)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | September 4, 2004 | STEVE PATTERSON

Posted on 09/04/2004 7:04:13 AM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John

On Wednesday, Cook County election officials moved five polling sites out of an Orland Park church because of controversial comments made by that church's pastor.

On Friday, Chicago election officials followed, moving three polling sites out of a Chicago church run by the same pastor.

Ashburn Baptist Church, near 83rd and Kedzie, won't be the polling site for three 18th Ward precincts this year, Chicago Board of Elections spokesman Tom Leach said. Though a new polling site hasn't been selected yet for the Nov. 2 general election, he said board members were unanimous in deciding to move to a new site.

"Our guarantee to voters, which we post at every polling place, is that they be allowed to cast a ballot in a non-disruptive atmosphere, free of interference," Leach said. "It's hard enough to get people to come to the polls, but if they're intimidated or feel they're not welcome at the poll, or where there's a hint of prejudice, we've got to do something about that."

Leach said the city received no complaints about the Rev. Vernon Lyons or his Chicago church, which is in contrast to the Ashburn Baptist Church that Lyons runs at 15401 Wolf Rd. in Orland Park.

Lyons led an unsuccessful effort to block a mosque from coming to Orland Park, and in that debate, he said Muslims are either involved in terrorism or are financial supporters of it. Some Muslims who vote at polling sites in Lyons' church told county Clerk David Orr they'd be uncomfortable there, given Lyons' comments, and Orr moved the polls to nearby public buildings.

Leach said moving the three Chicago polling sites will impact about 1,600 registered voters, all of whom will be notified of a new site.

Yasser Tabbara, director of Chicago's Council on American Islamic Relations, praised the moves by Orr and Leach, but lamented the need to make such moves.

"It's like when African-Americans got the right to vote but then had to go in buildings saying 'whites only,'" Tabbara said. "But I am glad the board fulfilled their duty and are making sure that polling places are friendly environments for the entire population."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: ashburnbaptist; cair; cookcounty; davidorr; islam; muslims
CAIR has shown their heartfelt concern here, but still nothing on their website about the Russian school tragedy.
1 posted on 09/04/2004 7:04:13 AM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Screw muslims. Go ahead and ban me, but islam is the problem. A baptist minister objects to muslims voting in his church and the government reacts to the muslims. Whats next? A law demanding Muslim kids get to pray to the east at school?


2 posted on 09/04/2004 7:07:03 AM PDT by cardinal4 (John Kerry- "A Hamster Tale..")
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Hevan forbid that a minister has an opinion about religion! what is this world coming to? An abrupt an end where it's maker is going to set 'em down and make it straight!
3 posted on 09/04/2004 7:07:43 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (I'm as mad as Zell and I'm not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Some Muslims who vote at polling sites in Lyons' church told county Clerk David Orr they'd be uncomfortable there,... Yeah, well, I can't wait until enough Americans start being UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT SHOPPING AT THEIR CONVENIENCE STORES so they won't have any money to send back home to terrorists groups. If Americans would SHOP AMERICAN ONLY they'd have to leave and go back home and that would open more businesses and jobs for Americans. They sure as heck don't hire people in the community to work their businesses. It's only family.
4 posted on 09/04/2004 7:13:14 AM PDT by no dems (Hey, Hey JFK; How many lies have you told today?)
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Some Muslims who vote at polling sites in Lyons' church told county Clerk David Orr they'd be uncomfortable there,... Yeah, well, I can't wait until enough Americans start being UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT SHOPPING AT THEIR CONVENIENCE STORES so they won't have any money to send back home to terrorists groups. If Americans would SHOP AMERICAN ONLY they'd have to leave and go back home and that would open more businesses and jobs for Americans. They sure as heck don't hire people in the community to work their businesses. It's only family.
5 posted on 09/04/2004 7:13:43 AM PDT by no dems (Hey, Hey JFK; How many lies have you told today?)
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To: no dems

I dont patronize any muzzie owned businesses.


6 posted on 09/04/2004 7:15:38 AM PDT by Coroner
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Imagine that. Someone not wanting a terrorist command center located in their nieghborhood. Pastor Lyons obviously akipped his sensitivity training class.


7 posted on 09/04/2004 7:22:59 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: cardinal4

Unfortunately, the knucklehead lefties are in charge.


8 posted on 09/04/2004 7:32:06 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: cardinal4
"Lyons led an unsuccessful effort to block a mosque from coming to Orland Park, and in that debate, he said Muslims are either involved in terrorism or are financial supporters of it. "
9 posted on 09/04/2004 7:34:03 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Look for a unit on Islam in American schools. This unit will be required to graduate. Its coming, just watch..


10 posted on 09/04/2004 7:44:34 AM PDT by cardinal4 (John Kerry- "A Hamster Tale..")
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To: cardinal4
Already done, prayers rooms in Cook county schools.

One word Beslan.

You don't denounce it then you are then the barabarians you have painted yourselves to be.

11 posted on 09/04/2004 7:56:28 AM PDT by dts32041 (bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay)
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To: dts32041

They wont denounce it, not until the outcry gets to loud. Then they will grudgingly put a one line comment on the CAIR website. I hate the muslims for making me a bigot. I wasnt one before 9-11.


12 posted on 09/04/2004 8:05:34 AM PDT by cardinal4 (John Kerry- "A Hamster Tale..")
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Why do they have a polling place in a church in the first place? Talk about separation of church and state.


13 posted on 09/04/2004 8:27:57 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
he said Muslims are either involved in terrorism or are financial supporters of it

Telling the truth like doing a good deed never goes unpunished. Those who want the truth hidden seek power so they can hide it.

14 posted on 09/04/2004 9:23:36 AM PDT by fella
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To: Fishing-guy
Talk about separation of church and state.

Now where exactly is that in the Constitution? Or is it one of those "emanations from a penumbra" like the right to an abortion?

15 posted on 09/04/2004 10:12:11 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Not sure about your question. You want the state and church to mix or you want the state to sponsor religion?

Personally, I think once there is a state sponsored religion, the state will be tempted to legislate the churches.


16 posted on 09/04/2004 1:34:30 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: Fishing-guy
You want the state and church to mix

The country was founded by theists, on theistic princinciples, with a form of goverment largely borrowed from the Presbyterian church, so I have no problem that we we were organized as a Nation under God.

17 posted on 09/04/2004 3:11:32 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: cardinal4

They don't need a law to allow a "Muslim place to pray". The schools willingly supply it .. fearful of what the Muslims will do .. or .. as usual, the liberal weenies at schools cave to any outside force.

Our Christian children are castigated for praying at school .. but places are provided for Muslims.

When is the outside force of PARENTS going to rise up and make their voices heard at the school.


18 posted on 09/04/2004 11:53:51 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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