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To: ChadGore

Russia doesn't need any of our air assets. What they do need, however, is for the State Department to reassure them that we won't say a word in diplomatic circles no matter what it is they decide to do to these animals. We could offer to do some joint patrolling with them using Special Forces along with their FSB - to begin further integrating of our forces. Just showing them that there is solidarity with them in their anger and grief would go a long way in easing relations.

This is an opportunity to put the cold war behind both nations, with an eye to the future. It would also be a good way to show Russia that we can be trusted - they are still quite suspicious of our intentions now that NATO is on their borders. The EU's arrogance has given us a way to show Russia that we aren't like the European elitists, we should not let it pass.

The world would be a much different place if we could become true allies with Russia.


41 posted on 09/04/2004 2:07:49 AM PDT by datura (Communism didn't die with the Soviet Union, they just changed the name to Democrat.)
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To: datura; MarMema; RussianConservative
This is an opportunity to put the cold war behind both nations, with an eye to the future. It would also be a good way to show Russia that we can be trusted - they are still quite suspicious of our intentions now that NATO is on their borders. The EU's arrogance has given us a way to show Russia that we aren't like the European elitists, we should not let it pass. The world would be a much different place if we could become true allies with Russia.

Nicely stated: that's not a nation you wanna tick off. Neither of us owe Old Europe much of anything anymore.
42 posted on 09/04/2004 2:14:06 AM PDT by IslandJeff
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To: datura

Great post !! I agree !!!

GWB should be on the "Red Phone" ASAP with Putin, and ask him if he is NOW ready to join the "Coalition of the Willing" in the world wide fight against terrorism.

GWB should say "If you are, the US will back you 100% in the UN and against the EU , while you PERMANENTLY take care of your terrorist "problem" IF.....AND ONLY IF...

Russia will back theUS 100% in the UN and against the EU "bunch" while the US,(with 24hours notice so Putin can get his "workers" out) PERMANENTLY takes care of Iran's nuclear "program".

If such an agreement could be made, Russia wins BIG by making the Russian people and their country FINALLY free of their "main terrorist problems" and maybe more "investments"
will happen there because it would be a lot safer, making their economy and country worth taking a monetary "risk" with, making a VERY strong case for Russia and Putin to FINALLY become a part of the "team".

The US would greatly benifit, as the Iranians would be given the "signal" to shed themselves of their oppressive government,which would then no longer be able to keep Iraq in such an unstable state, making the "trifecta" complete a LOT sooner that it looks like it would be completed at present.

The Saudis would maybe FINALLY "get on board" and "clean house"......

...Syria would surely know that THEY ARE NEXT, and MAYBE
suddenly "discover"( like Hillary's "discovery" of those "lost" FBI files,) those WMD's that Saddam gave them for "safe keeping".

......Hamas AND Arafat,would REALLY be feeling "quite
lonely" monetarily, AND in the WMD department....

...and I would wager little Kimmey-Jong would probably be like a B.F.Skinner rat in whatever maze we decided he should be put in, as he would be the the LAST AXIS-OF-EVIL left, with hardly any "customers" with any REAL money, to buy any of his very disruptive "toys" that he NEEDS the financial benifits from to keep him in power....

...and then Pakistan could FINALLY be free enough at that point to "take care of their terorist "biz".

...and one other little plus... oil would no longer be able to be used as an "infidel blackmailing tool" by the Mecca and Medina "crowd, and "gasoline prices might PERMANENTLY become a stable and fairly priced world wide commodity,( quite a "positive" thing if it did.)


....and if this could be worked out RIGHT NOW while the pictures and news of the "school incident" are FRESH in the
minds of the world at large, and (in MY "perfect VRWC Freeper world") say before the end of September (which would spoil lil' kimmy jongs planned "October Surprise").....

..do you think the TRAIN LOAD OF DEMS on their way to the "funny farm" will still want to hear their 2004 presidential candidate, "Smith-Corona-Rambo", aka jf'n, how he woulnd have done ALL of the above "differently", in sort of a "Silver Star with a "V" for Valor kind of way ???


57 posted on 09/04/2004 3:14:08 AM PDT by musicman
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To: datura
Re: The world would be a much different place if we could become true allies with Russia.

We're all Russians today.

79 posted on 09/04/2004 5:42:48 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: datura
The world would be a much different place if we could become true allies with Russia.

They've got a buttload of oil as well. And I for one wouldn't mind having another source for crude other than the Middle East.

81 posted on 09/04/2004 5:45:19 AM PDT by asgardshill (GWB throws heat. JF'nK throws spitballs.)
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To: datura

Well spoken but with one significant caveat:

We'd have to do magic to bring the former soviet satelites along and they are our hedge against "old europe".


101 posted on 09/04/2004 6:48:13 AM PDT by norton
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To: datura

"The world would be a much different place if we could become true allies with Russia."

They're building a nuclear reactor in Iran for goodness sakes!



105 posted on 09/04/2004 7:20:34 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: datura
"Just showing them that there is solidarity with them in their anger and grief would go a long way in easing relations."

Easing relations is going to be difficult with Russians busy building a nuclear reactor for Iran.

140 posted on 09/04/2004 11:17:32 AM PDT by Truthsayer20
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