Russia Hostage Death Toll Said to Top 200

My Way, AP ^ | Sep 3, 4:37 PM (ET) | MIKE ECKEL

[hershey]

I agree.

[Southern Federalist]

So now, who were those smart, sophisticated pundits who thought Zell Miller was over the top about seeing his grandchildren protected? And when will Senator Kerry enlighten us about the "complexities" of these events?

And above all, everyone who wants a more "sensitive" war on terror, raise your hands.

[sheik yerbouty]

Jihadist vermin are vermin, regardless of their origins. They should be put down like the rabid beasts that they arte.

[SAJ]

In normal English usage, the phrase ''10 of them Arabs'' will modify the closest appropriate noun, which is in this case ''forces'' (or ''security forces'' if you consider that term to be a compound noun along the same lines as ''military intelligence''...no jokes, please(w!)).

If you want to tell me that you've 20 dead guys and 10 of these are Arabs, all you have to say is:

''Twenty militants, 10 of them Arabs, were killed...etc.''

Putting the modifying clause at the end of the sentence, when what you intend to modify with it is at the very beginning of the sentence, is an hopelessly ungrammatical usage, needlessly unclear, and can (and will) create confusion in a large number of cases, as here. If (for some curious reason) you DID want to specify the ethnicity of the security forces, you would indeed write the sentence in this fashion. ''10 of them Arabs'', as placed, unquestionably is a modifier for ''forces''.

[sheik yerbouty]

The Russians did the best they could with the awful circumstances. What theyt should do now is reopen the camps in Siberia, reinforce the walls, add electrification and rename it Chechnya.

[Lent]

Valery Andreyev, head of the local branch of the FSB intelligence service, said 20 hostage-takers had been killed, 10 of them from Arab countries, after Russian troops stormed the school earlier Friday. (Map of school)

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/03/russia.school/index.html

Hmmm. Jihading Arabs in Russia. Surprise, surprise....

[Drammach]

Why these reporters fail to mention that North Ossentia is primarily Christian bothers me also.
I consider it helpful info in understanding the situation more completely.

That would be because North Ossetia is primarily Muslim...
South Ossettia is primarily Christian..

You don't have to believe me.. Check the facts yourself..
I did..

[Ptarmigan]

Those Muslims are just violent. They are just proof that Nazis never died, they just went somewhere else. Muslims are the Nazis of today. Adolf Hitler would be very proud today.

[Dante3]

I am at a loss of words for this horrific evil.

[carl in alaska]

"Hmmm. Jihading Arabs in Russia. Surprise, surprise...."

I'm increasingly concerned that we will see them here next. We have a lot of intelligence indicating they want to disrupt and influence the November elections. Between now and November 2, don't ride public transportation unless it's absolutely necessary.

[carl in alaska]

Here is a man who knows where most of his true allies live. His allies live here in America.

[TotusTuus]

That would be because North Ossetia is primarily Muslim... South Ossettia is primarily Christian.

I'm confused.

From Wikipedia:

"The Ossetian population of North Ossetia is predominantly Christian with a Muslim minority, ..."

[A Jovial Cad]

Absolutely heartbreaking and infuriating at the same time. It is simply beyond me to understand this kind of depravity. It is high time the civilized world got serious about dealing with these modern day barbarians.
Maybe now the world will see exactly why Israel is constructing a barrier to keep these kind of animals out--and quit ranting about how "unfair" it is to the (so-called)Palestinians.
There are some days I really despair for the survival of Western Civilization outside of the United States & Israel unless the rest of the world wakes up to what the WOT is really all about.

[djf]

I have long believed the next superpower alliance will be America and Russia.

[A Jovial Cad]

*Any pity I ever felt for the Chechens is gone now*

You and me both--I agree 100%.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Wonder how long before the entire civilized world is fed up with the muslims.

IMO, we need to start from the top and work down. First, identify and kill every leader. Then the sub-commanders. Then the rest. Destroy their towns and cities. Every mosque in the world should be fire-bombed. Mecca should go first, blasted by a minimum 15M megaton hydrogenbomb, followed by the rest of the "holy" cities, all bastions of evil. Those who try to interfere should be killed on site. If and when they stand down, then so will we. Perhaps after 10-20 million of them have been justly killed, the rest will stand down. If not, keep killing them until they are all gone.

[LouD]

20 adult men had been executed

My guess is the Russian body recovery team was a pretext for a rescue team insertion. The standard protocol for any hostage rescue team in the world is that when hostages die, real negotiations are over. "Negotiators" may continue to talk, but only to buy time or gather intel before the inevitable arrives in a series of flash-bangs and sub-machine gun bursts.

Unfortunately, the terrorists anticipated this. However, there was nothing that could have been done differently. Once they start killing hostages, there is no other option but to go in shooting, despite the potential for losses among the hostages.

[A Jovial Cad]

Just makes me heartsick--and furious. So much for that mantra we heard lately from a certain presidential candidate about waging a more "sensitive" War On Terror--I dare anyone to look at these images and then seriously maintain that we need to handle the cretins who commit horrors like this with anything less the full, hard hand of war, William Tecumseh Sherman/Curtis LeMay style.

[Schwaeky]

I submitted this to a number of newspapers, so watch for it to be published...

In light of recent events, combined with events over the past few years post 9/11, I have
looked studiously and come up empty on one critical matter concerning terrorism committed by Islamic radicals, and come up with a continiuously unanswered question? Where is the outrage? To be sure, there is some criticism by a few token Muslim clerics here in the United States to the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, but there has been no public denunciations by rank and file Imams and Mullahs, no condemnations of actions, whether it be those perpetrated against the United States, recent hostage takings of French journalists in Iraq, suicide bombings in Israel, or the recent atrocities committed by Chechen rebels in Russia against innocent men, women and children, on land and in the air, and no SCATHING CONDEMNATIONS from any muslim cleric. Where is the outrage, where are the condemnations?
The answer is quite simple, there is none. As a Catholic, if someone of the same religion as I had perpetrated acts like bombing mosques or shooting up Muslim schools, anywhere in the world, it would be rapidly condemned by not only local Catholic clergy, it would be condemned by the Holy See itself, and condemnations against such atrocities would ring out in sermons at Masses the world over for weeks. Muslim clerics and lay people need to learn that if they don't start condemning these atrocities, and continue their silence when such atrocities happen, they will, far from being a solution to the problem, will present themselves as the problem for all civilized nations.

[Kornev]

3 terrorists were captured. I sure hope they die long, painful, agonizing horrific deaths. Hopefully they'll pull out the old KGB methods stuff.