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To: GraniteStateConservative

It was very hot in the building where the hostage were being held.

It is reported 460 killed and 600 wounded

http://www.gazeta.ru/2004/09/04/oa_132350.shtml

Îáùåå ÷èñëî ïîãèáøèõ â Áåñëàíå çàëîæíèêîâ äîñòèãëî 460 ÷åëîâåê. È ñêîðåå âñåãî, ýòà öèôðà åùå óâåëè÷èòñÿ. Ôèçè÷åñêè ïîñòðàäàëè áîëüøå 600 èç 700 ÷åëîâåê, âûâåäåííûõ ñïàñàòåëÿìè èç çäàíèÿ âçîðâàííîé øêîëû. Ñêîëüêî îñòàëîñü ïîä çàâàëàìè ñïîðòçàëà, ïîêà íåèçâåñòíî.


434 posted on 09/04/2004 4:40:06 AM PDT by B4Ranch (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality - Ayn Rand)
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To: B4Ranch
I don't trust gazeta.ru It's like CBS here, only worse.
Both itar-tass.com and BBC report "322 (bodies) had been so far recovered, 155 of them children" "These are not the final figures, and they will probably grow, but not by too much,"

An important point from BBC, covered up by the US media:
"Commandos went into action after a series of explosions inside the school, at least one of which appears to have been the accidental detonation of a bomb planted by the militants."
443 posted on 09/04/2004 6:20:56 AM PDT by silversky
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To: B4Ranch; All

Babelfished version of the story, from the site (gazeta.ru) on the School hostage crisis/aftermath:

(Note: the word 'killed' was translating to 'killed', so I changed each instance to say 'killed' otherwise, text is unedited)

The total number of hostages killed in Beslane reached 460 people. And most likely, this number still will increase. Physically suffered more than 600 of 700 people, brought out by spasatelyami from the building of the exploded school. How much remained under the obstructions of gymnasium, until it is unknown.

To 12 mornings of Saturday, according to unofficial data of the Ministry of Public Health of North Osetia, the total number of those be killed in Beslane reached 460 people. Immediately the bodies of 250 of those be killed took out of the school. The representatives of operational staff at night reported on this, and "gazete..Ru" in the morning confirmed the official representatives of the Ministry of Pub. Health of republic. But within the night of spasateli they dug up from under the obstructions of the school of 60 additional bodies. As reports correspondent "gazety..Ru" from the place of events, body, which now very accurately take out from under the brought down roofing of sport hall, strongly they was charred and they were disfigured by explosion. They obtain also many fragments of bodies.

According to the unofficial information MVD, to 10 mornings were found 80 additional people (or the fragments of their bodies), thus. The agency Of "interfaks" with the reference to the sources in the Ministry of Pub. Health reported to noon that spasateli extracted from under the fragments of gymnasium and other accomodations of the destroyed school of the body of 70 additional humans.

Thus, the total number of people, which they today reached from under the fragments, composed 210 people. But a quantity of those be killed - 460. And it is possible that this number still will increase.

As they reported in the Ministry of Pub. Health of republic, among those be killed are children, the parents, the teachers of school, and also the colleagues of the primary structures, which participated in the release of hostages. In particular known that perished 10 Special Forces soldiers and two colleagues OF MCHS [EMERGENCY AND DISASTER RELIEF MINISTRY], and in the hospital of Vladikavkaz be situated 18 injured Special Forces soldiers even two spasateley MCHS [EMERGENCY AND DISASTER RELIEF MINISTRY] of Russia.

In the Ministry of Pub. Health they do not exclude, that the number of those be killed can increase after the final selection of obstructions, which, until now continues in the exploded school.

Are thus far, according to the data OF UFSB of republic, identified bodies of approximately 100 people, of them almost 20 children.

As reports correspondent "gazety..Ru", identification is passed very heavily, documents many be killed with themselves do not have, they were without the outer clothing, since in the hall, where they held hostages, it was very oppressive.

Furthermore, many bodies are disfigured by explosion and they practically cannot be identified without conducting of examinations. 12 is hour in the center Beslana it takes place the meeting of the relatives of the hostages, who could not find their relatives neither among the victims nor among those be killed.

The lists all of those disappeared without the news will be comprised. According to the latest data MCHS [EMERGENCY AND DISASTER RELIEF MINISTRY] of Russia, during the assault the colleagues of ministry derived 704 hostages.

Some of that rescued did not need medical aid; however, the majority of people it was necessary to hospitalize. Into the hospitals first burn 556 injured, including of 332 children.

According to the head physician of beslanskoy hospital, 328 people they transported to Vladikavkaz. But in the hospital Of beslana remained only heavy patients. Those, who obtained easy injuries, after rendering aid were sent by physicians home. Even heavier patients immediately after evacuation from school they transported to Vladikavkaz.

Let us recall that ambulances it did not be sufficient. Therefore for the removal of injured was used entire hereabout particular motor transport confronting.

Among the victims in essence of woman and children. Almost all children were undressed, women barefoot. As they reported "gazete..Ru" in KBSP of Vladikavkaz, among the victims there are very many people disfigured by explosions.

As doctors say, physicians fear that among the patients there can be the injured fighters. The personalities of victims cannot be established thus far, because many of them be in unconscious state, and they do not have documents.

As reported "gazete..Ru" physicians in the republic clinical hospital of Vladikavkaz, patients it entered "much more than they speak on the television". But precise numbers name they cannot.

According to the data of Ministry of Pub. Health to 12.00 msk of Saturday, in the hospitals of Vladikavkaz be situated 437 suffered, in Beslane - 50 additional people. Among those hospitalized - 258 children.

In Respublikansoky to the children's clinical hospital of Vladikavkaz be situated 195 injured children, in the republic clinical hospital - 41 people, including of 13 children, in the clinical hospital of first aid of Vladikavkaz 120 people (at night doctors they transferred to the dispensary treatment 88 most easily ranennykh).

The ardonskeye district hospital entered one person, one more - into The the alagirskuyu, into the clinic of the North Osetian state medical academy (SOGMA) The ardonskeye district hospital In the railroad hospital of Vladikavkaz of eight people.

Known also that in Beslane in the district hospital in the evening were located more than 200 people, now there (, in addition according to the data of Ministry of Pub. Health) remained about 50 seriously wounded.

True, according to representative minzdrav, besides 420 freed hostages suffered about 50 colleagues of primary structures.

They obtained injuries in the course of operation on the release and now they are located in the military hospitals and other therapeutic establishments of republic. So that they coincide taking into account 88 tempered numbers of hospitals and Ministry of Pub. Health.

According to the data of doctors, the majority of victims obtained mine-explosive injuries, contusion, and also bullet injuries.

"very many women entered with the bullet injuries. Apparently, they covered the children, when they ran away, by themselves, and by them they shot at the back ", say physicians from the republic hospital of Vladikavkaz.

According to the data of the Ministry of Pub. Health of republic, within the night in the hospitals no one died, although the status of the health of many people - heavy. In the center of medicine of the catastrophes OF MCHS [EMERGENCY AND DISASTER RELIEF MINISTRY] of Russia To "gazete..Ru" they described that the first aircraft OF MCHS [EMERGENCY AND DISASTER RELIEF MINISTRY] with the injured departed into Moscow.

In all into the capital hospitals they brought six victims. It is known that among them at least three children and they all be in the heaviest state - for their treatment special equipment and best doctors is required. Therefore they were directed into the 9th and 13th children's clinical hospitals.

In the military hospitals, in particular in the hospital im. Viwnyovskiy, are prepared 100 cots, in the hospital im. Burdenko they also await victims. About 3.00 msk in the airport Of beslana landed two aircraft OF MCHS [EMERGENCY AND DISASTER RELIEF MINISTRY] of Russia, which brought to victim the brigade of capital pediatricians and several mobile resuscitation vehicles.

The colleagues of the hospital Of beslana will decide, who from the victims will remain in the city, and whom on the mobile resuscitation vehicles will have to deliver into Vladikavkaz.

From Daghestan into Beslan to Friday in the evening was directed the column of machines with the load of humanitarian assistance. For North Osetia left several motor vehicles with the medicines, the surgical dressings and the preparations the blood.The doctors of the center of medicine of the catastrophes, which already have an experience of rendering aid to victim as a result of acts of terror, accompany load. Donors in Beslane pass the blood.

As they reported "gazete..Ru" in the republic center of the blood transfusion, the day before at them arrived to return the blood of 308 people, on Saturday from the morning - 140 more.

Physicians note that those desiring to return the blood for the victims is not thus far begun less. As they declare in the center, the blood thus far will be sufficient for all victims; however, it will be necessary, also, after the first days of hospitalization. "desiring to return the blood entire street. Therefore we write them to Monday, Tuesday is further on the week so that the blood would be fresher ", they say in the center.

To the work the colleagues of the Red Cross were connected. Furthermore, as they reported in the center of medicine of the catastrophes OF MCHS [EMERGENCY AND DISASTER RELIEF MINISTRY] of Russia, on the spot works the director of center Sergey goncharov and 30 additional specialists from Moscow.

Furthermore, in Beslane be situated 46 psychologists, and also 11 workers of the center im. the Serbian, ready to render psychological assistance to victim, their relatives, and also to the families of those be killed. Psychologists call all, who was situated in the seized school, and those, who sharply survived this drama, to turn for help.

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My heart goes out to the Families and the Soldiers.

Terrorism is a diabolical evil that must be destroyed.

W_P

455 posted on 09/04/2004 8:14:07 AM PDT by wolicy_ponk (Kerry, follow me no closer than 1000 yards, or I'll teach you what a real purple heart is. -T.Peck)
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To: B4Ranch; GraniteStateConservative; Geist Krieger; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; ...
Just saw on Fox News that the children who weren't killed in heavy explosive blasts set by the Muslims and who fled immediately after the blast were gunned down (READ: SHOT IN THE BACKS) as they ran from the Religion of Peace messengers.

Also, firefights that lasted almost three hours were fought with heavy weapons stashes placed in strategic locations by the messengers of Allah in the weeks and days leading up to the Holy Jihad.

One must wonder how many such weapons caches are being stashed strategically throughout the United States.

Michale Moore would be very proud.

463 posted on 09/04/2004 9:37:28 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home - Georgia Democrat Zell Miller)
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