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Russian Innocents Killed by Terrorists Climb to 150 or More
AP ^ | 9/3/2004

Posted on 09/03/2004 10:04:07 AM PDT by ezfindit

Russians Storm School; 150 May Be Dead By MIKE ECKEL, Associated Press Writer

BESLAN, Russia - Commandos stormed a school Friday in southern Russia and battled separatist rebels holding 1,200 hostages, as crying children, some naked and covered in blood, fled through explosions and gunfire. An official said the death toll could be significantly higher than 150.

Three of the separatist rebels were reportedly still blockaded in a school basement, trading fire with security forces. A Federal Security Service official said militants were still holding hostages — children among them.

Hours after much of the school was secured late Friday afternoon, a large explosion erupted from the school toward nightfall, the ITAR-Tass news agency reported.

Ten militants were killed in the violence, including nine Arabs, an aide to President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) said, according to the Interfax news agency. The Arab presence among the attackers would support Putin's contention that al-Qaida terrorists were involved in the Chechen conflict, where Muslim fighters have been fighting Russian forces in a brutal a war of independence for most of the past decade.

The chaotic climax to the hostage standoff began when explosions collapsed part of the school roof and gunfire erupted from inside the building where the militants, some with explosives strapped to their bodies, stormed the school Wednesday moring.

The militants — demanding independence for nearby Chechnya — kept the hostages, mostly women and children, in the sweltering gymnasium, refusing to let in food or water.

"They didn't let me go to the toilet for three days, not once. They never let me drink or go to the toilet," Teimuraz, the escaped hostage told APTN.

After the hostage-takers fled, more than 100 bodies were found in the gymnasium, some apparently killed when part of the school's roof collapsed in the explosion that prompted the Russian security forces to move in.

A Putin aide said the total death toll could be singificantly more than 150 people. An estimated 520 people were wounded, health officials said. The regional health minister earlier reported that at least 218 children were wounded.

Aslanbek Aslakhanov, Putin's top aide on Chechnya, said security forces did not plan to storm the building, but were prompted to move when the hostage-takers set off explosions early Friday afternoon. Witnesses said the militants opened fire on fleeing hostages and then began to escape themselves.

Gunfire rang out for hours as security forces chased hostage-takers, who split into small groups as they fled. Interfax and the ITAR-Tass news agency reported the three militants holed up in the basement may include the head of the group. Another group took refuge in a nearby house where tanks moved in.

Huge columns of smoke rose from the school. Windows were shattered, part of roof was gone and another part was charred. Commandos, residents and journalists scurried around the building and soldiers climbed inside through a lower floor window, all the glass missing.

People ran through the streets, and the wounded were carried off on stretchers. An Associated Press reporter saw ambulances speeding by, the windows streaked with blood. Four armed men in civilian clothes ran by, shouting, "A militant ran this way."

Soldiers and men in civilian clothes carried children — some naked, some clad only in underpants, some covered in blood — to a temporary hospital set up behind an armored personnel carrier. One child had a bandage on her head, others had bandaged limbs. Some women, newly freed from the school, fainted.

The children drank eagerly from bottles of water given to them once they reached safety. Many of the children were naked or only partly clothed because of the stifling heat in the gymnasium.

"I am helping you," a man dressed in camouflage told a crying girl. Women gathered around, trying to soothe her, saying "It's all right. It's all right."

A cameraman for the British network ITN reported seeing around 100 bodies in the gym. The correspondent for Russia's Interfax news agency reported that there were dozens of bodies in the school, including about 100 in the gym, and that some were killed when the building's roof collapsed from an explosion before the main assault began.

The White House branded the hostage-taking "barbaric" and "despicable" and said responsibility for dozens of lost lives rests with the terrorists. "The United States stands side-by-side with Russia in our global fight against terrorism," spokesman Scott McClellan said. ...

Militants opened fire on fleeing hostages and security forces returned fire. Once the hostage-takers sought to escape, Russian officials apparently made the decision to storm the building.

The militants had reportedly threatened to blow up the building if authorities tried to storm it, but all indications suggested the explosions began before the assault. Russian officials repeatedly said they were not planning to invade and had earlier won the release of 26 hostages through negotiations. Negotiators said the hostage-takers had repeatedly refused offers of food and water througout the standoff.

"They are very cruel people, we are facing a ruthless enemy," said Leonid Roshal, a pediatrician involved in the negotiations. "I talked with them many times on my cell phone, but every time I ask to give food, water and medicine to the hostages they refuse my request."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: animals; caucasus; chechnya; childrenkilled; innocence; islam; jihad; muslims; orthodox; ossetia; religionofpeace; russia; terrorism
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Dear muslims around the world:

If you they take out your their own trash, we wont' have to.

...and you can spare the children

201 posted on 09/03/2004 11:38:16 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: BurbankKarl

The price a country pays for not getting the terrorist before they get you. This could of been the U.S. if Gore would of won.


202 posted on 09/03/2004 11:38:30 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: ezfindit; Robert_Paulson2; jimbo123; Centurion2000; Frank_Discussion
Alberuni (AD 973 - 1048), a Muslim scholar, mathematician and master of Greek and Hindu system astrology, wrote twenty books.

His nick's historical reference.

LBT

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203 posted on 09/03/2004 11:39:50 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: Toskrin; alberuni

"In most every conflict, there's a right side and a wrong side. The truth does not lie somewhere in the middle.

The Muslim terrorists are the wrong side."

Unless you are a Muslim terrorist like alberuni, then it is the right side.


204 posted on 09/03/2004 11:40:40 AM PDT by monday
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To: LiberalBassTurds

You could tell that he was a muzzie because of his bloodthirsty support for muzzie terrorists. Islam is a death cult.

Funny how the muzzies have to go back to 1048 to find anyone who could be considered a scholar. They have given nothing to world civilization except for death, hate and perversion.


207 posted on 09/03/2004 11:44:10 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: alberuni

Terrorism has not Killed thousands of people.

Terrorism has Killed millions of people, and they want to kill more.

You meerely want to split hairs about what you consider a terrorist act.

The problem with Islam aside from all the other obvious ones is that a vast number of Moslems that are not directly involved in terrorism support it by doing nothing. They do not condemn it. They dance in the streets and celebrate atrocities.

If a Christian bombs an abortion clinic , all Christianity rises up and denounces it.

If a Jew shoots up a mosque then all Jews stand up and denounce it.

If a Moslem brutally slaughters innocent children, Many Moslems dance in the streets, but most close their doors and pretend not to see it. The mullah's preach bloody slaughter from the pulpits and pretend that Islam is a religion of Peace.

Islam is a death cult.


208 posted on 09/03/2004 11:44:19 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Kerry/Edwards. Between the two ofe them, I'd be safer with a bowl of cold mush.)
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To: alberuni

What's going to happen when we capture or kill Bin Laden? Are you going to blow yourself up in a shopping mall or something?


209 posted on 09/03/2004 11:45:17 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: PigRigger

Send a letter of sympathy and condolences to Putin. Thanks for posting the link.


210 posted on 09/03/2004 11:45:57 AM PDT by ezfindit
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To: alberuni
Two Houses
The Koran sees the world as divided into two - one part which has come under Islamic rule and one part which is supposed to come under Islamic rule in the future. There is a division of the world which is very clear. Every single person who starts studying Islam knows it. The world is described as Dar al-Islam (the house of Islam) - that's the place where Islam rules - and the other part which is called Dar al-Harb - the house of war. Not the "house of non-Muslims," but the "house of war." It is this house of war which as to be, at the end of time, conquered. The world will continue to be in the house of war until it comes under Islamic rule. This is the norm. Why? Because Allah says it's so in the Koran. God has sent Mohammed with the true religion in order that the truth will overcome all other religions.

The thousands of Islamic terrorist attacks that have taken place over the last 30 years show that the muslims believe what is written above. It's about time the West acted accordingly to win this war.

BTW, as you know, "Islam" doesn't mean "peace", it means "submission". Putatively, it means submission to Allah, but since we all know that on this earth, men "interpret" the will of God, it means that Islamic fascists want us to submit to them.

211 posted on 09/03/2004 11:47:54 AM PDT by BushMeister (You can't Botox your way out of this one!)
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To: alberuni

Ah yesss the islamist apologist de jour.
I would say that the russians did not kill enough chechnyans. nor did they get the leadership. had they done so, it would have terminated the chechnyan problem.

the real leadership for worldwide islamism is in mecca.
and can be dealt with directly.

I suspect it will too. perhaps by the Russians.

And if 1.2 billion rise up to kill us infidels?
I think that question has already been answered.
Our response will be eviscerating.

hope your allah has kevlar,
because his followers apparently don't.


212 posted on 09/03/2004 11:47:58 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: alberuni
Instead of putting false words in my mouth, why don't you paste the link?

Link pasted

213 posted on 09/03/2004 11:48:15 AM PDT by Alouette (My son, the IDF soldier, on guard for Israel)
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To: mortal19440
Islam itself is the problem. All Muslims want us *infidels* dead; 90% will watch, while 10% will actually kill us.

Islam, The Religion of Peace™

Islam, The Cult of Death™

215 posted on 09/03/2004 11:49:19 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Who's Astonished Now????

Astonished J Harris Lematha sawgrass
Passin Pilgrim LeeAnn6 tynker Kudzu Flat
Samaritan Patria One beecharmer Miss Pixie
necho6 glassheart3 Friend_Or_Foe Kirkland Junction
nohorse faintpraise FlaLawyer Sumayya
alberuni TBD TBD TBD

216 posted on 09/03/2004 11:49:32 AM PDT by Alouette (My son, the IDF soldier, on guard for Israel)
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To: jimbo123
I have to agree jimbo. I usually try to stay balanced on these issues despite my passion. Alberuni needs to look in the mirror and understand that his attitude is what's driving most Americans towards the solutions expressed in this thread. Of course he won't...and the global Muslim community won't either.

"Arabs are a very uncertain quantity, explosive and full of prejudices. Many things done here that look queer are just to keep the Arabs from blazing up into revolt. We sit on a boiling kettle!" - Dwight D. Eisenhower in a letter to Mamie from N. Africa 1942

Their world appears to be incapable of evolving.

LBT

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217 posted on 09/03/2004 11:50:49 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: TASMANIANRED

EXACTLY!

Look at Iraq. It's the exact SAME STORY with a different group of innocents. In Iraq, Islamic Radicals kill innocent Islamic women and children just to "resist" the liberation and democracy. I have yet to see one demonstration about this slaughter and horror in ANY Islamic country!!!

Where is the outrage? Where is the condemnation? Where are the courageous Muslem leaders taking the high road and standing up for truth and innocence? They're too busy blaming the US for all their murderous scum!

Islam is indeed a death cult!


218 posted on 09/03/2004 11:51:27 AM PDT by ezfindit
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To: Robert_Paulson2
It's just a question of how far you muzzies and muzzie supporters want to push it.

I am not muzzies. I don't even know what is that. ;)

"Removal of islamist scum" sounds good but, again, as you start removing it, scum's ideology will bring to existence so much more scum, that it will be even harder to do. Our people and our leaders have to find a way to contain Islamist ideology much like they did to Communism.

Ronald Reagan killed Soviet Union without bombs, by the power of free capitalistic society and ideology of personal freedom. Sooner or later Muslims will get it too. Until then they should be contained and closely watched.
220 posted on 09/03/2004 11:52:50 AM PDT by Neocon Shavuz
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