Posted on 09/03/2004 7:53:23 AM PDT by SJackson
Recognized Israel, and imposed an immediate arms embargo, on Israel, not the Arab states. Were it for Truman's policies, Israel likely wouldn't have survived.
"We are much more like Zell Miller... our former party has left us, and we are POd and we have found a new party to embrace. And you will see that trend do nothing but grow in the months and years ahead."
I hope you're right.
The numbers are not there now and I don't see that changing. Too many liberal jews "hate" christians of the evangelical persuasion. I don't think that they have good reason to do so, but then logic is not the issue.
Please keep up the good work. It isn't easy, but can make a difference. I think you have an uphill battle, but I know about those. I am an NRA member living behind enemy lines in the People's Republik of Kalifornia. Republican governor or not, our state legislature is a wholely owned subsidiary of the DNC.
Seriously, ponder this..inroads into Jewish support of Dems are more valuable for the $$$$ they deny Dems than for possible voters shifts.. That's becuase the vast majority of the Jewish voters are in states where even if W got 50% of the Jewish vote..it wouldn't make a difference..NY, Cal. Florida is a unique case..High Jewish population..but mainly older..they're dying out.. they still think that the GOP wants to tke away their SocSEc checks...hard to change theri minds..Possible states to impact could be Ohio..( Cleveland area) PA and NJ..a 10% shift in the Jewish vote in some states could tilt them to the GOP...but I think it's got to be a more targeted, localized campaign..
Proof? Two words: Robert Byrd.
Proof of what? Byrd garnered 78% of the vote in the last election, an impressive total, in a state with a Jewish population of 0.1%. It's not West Virginia Jews electing the Klansman.
LOL! How many women will you have to check out to find it?
No, but they support his party.
What about Bush's pretty much leaving Israel alone: "They have a right to defend themselves"?
I know that American Jews are American, but I think many also care alot about Israel's troubles.
Would they vote for Bush if the Dims stuck Arafat out there as the canidate?
(... heh.... Now that I think about it, I can't decide which would make a worse President. Kerry or Arafat...)
Closer to home, there's the recent boneheaded comments of Fritz Hollings. Inez Tannenbaum's (she's running for Holling's vacated Dem seat) husband is Jewish, and he has hastened to explain that Holling's antisemitic remarks are not antisemitic.
And IN SPITE of this American jews vote 90% RAT. I just do not get the logic of it. As I said, I believe it is because of their unreasoning hate/fear of evangelical christians.
Hmmm. Good question. I was thinking I'd have to find the moil who did the job 54 years ago. But now that you mention it, I suppose I could have just absent mindedly left it somewhere.
Excellent speech by Dennis Prager yesterday at the Republican Jewish Coalition (where Cheney spoke also). He told the enormous crowd that they should not fear the so-called religious right, and why they shouldn't. He made his point so well! I'd love to post a copy of that speech.
The Israel Swing Factor[T]he greatest political strength of American Jewry lies in the fact that it is a uniquely swayable bloc . The issue of support for Israel has proven capable of spurring a sizable portion of Jews to switch parties - in large enough numbers to tip the scales in national or statewide elections. Moreover, the "Israel swing vote" is especially open to political courtship because, unlike the interests of other minority groups, support for Israel has long been compatible with traditional Republican and Democratic agendas. By contrast, most other issues (abortion, affirmative action, etc.) cannot be embraced by Republicans or Democrats without alienating certain support bases. A pro-Israel stance runs no such risk. On the other hand, being distinctively unsupportive of Israel can significantly hurt a candidate's chances.
by Jeffrey S. Helmreich
15 January 2001
Year | Candidate | % of Jewish Vote |
1916 | ||
Hughes (R) | 45 | |
Wilson (D) | 55 | |
1920 | ||
Harding (R) | 43 | |
Cox (D) | 19 | |
Debs (Soc) | 38 | |
1924 | ||
Coolidge (R) | 27 | |
Davis (D) | 51 | |
La Folette (Progressive) | 22 | |
1928 | ||
Hoover (R) | 28 | |
Smith (D) | 72 | |
1932 | ||
Hoover (R) | 18 | |
Roosevelt (D) | 82 | |
1936 | ||
Landon (R) | 15 | |
Roosevelt (D) | 85 | |
1940 | ||
Wilkie (R) | 10 | |
Roosevelt (D) | 90 | |
1944 | ||
Dewey (R) | 10 | |
Roosevelt (D) | 90 | |
1948 | ||
Dewey (R) | 10 | |
Truman (D) | 75 | |
Wallace (Progressive) | 15 | |
1952 | ||
Eisenhower (R) | 36 | |
Stevenson (D) | 64 | |
1956 | ||
Eisenhower (R) | 40 | |
Stevenson (D) | 60 | |
1960 | ||
Nixon (R) | 18 | |
Kennedy (D) | 82 | |
1964 | ||
Goldwater (R) | 10 | |
Johnson (D) | 90 | |
1968 | ||
Nixon (R) | 17 | |
Humphrey (D) | 81 | |
Wallace (I) | 2 | |
1972 | ||
Nixon (R) | 35 | |
McGovern (D) | 65 | |
1976 | ||
Ford (R) | 27 | |
Carter (D) | 71 | |
McCarthy (I) | 2 | |
1980 | ||
Reagan (R) | 39 | |
Carter (D) | 45 | |
Anderson (I) | 14 | |
1984 | ||
Reagan (R) | 31 | |
Mondale (D) | 67 | |
1988 | ||
Bush (R) | 35 | |
Dukakis (D) | 64 | |
1992 | ||
Bush (R) | 11 | |
Clinton (D) | 80 | |
Perot (I) | 9 | |
1996 | ||
Dole (R) | 16 | |
Clinton (D) | 78 | |
Perot (I) | 3 | |
2000 | ||
Bush (R) | 19 | |
Gore (D) | 79 | |
Nader (G) | 1 |
Jewish voting patterns, and you could extend it to minority patterns, isnt a matter of religion but liberal voting patterns. NY and NY may have a Jewish Senator, but Wisconsin has 2, Minnesota and Oregon one each, states where you need a search party to find the local Jewish population. Theyre elected from states characterized by the westward movement of Northeastern liberalism, across the from Ct, NY, and NJ across Pa, Mi, Wi and Mn, to Oregon and California.
You can complain about religious voting patterns all you want, its not the issue. You can complain about bigotry, both sides have it, its not what anyone is voting on. Issues are a different matter, and what votes GWB picks up will likely be based on his handling of the war on terror (not Israel), and in the younger generation taxes and social security.
On a conversational level, if you asked Inez about Fritz Hollings or Cindy McKinney shed counter, successfully to an existing Democratic voter, with Pat Buchanan, David Duke, and James Hart. Jimmy *uck the Jews Carter, weve got James *uck the Jews Baker.
You wont win votes with most of the nonsense posted on these threads, and when the Jews should get what they deserve and GWB should cut off aid to Israel nonsense starts up, youll lose them.
Not to worry, I don't think anyone reads the article.
look at the votes for nixon-reagan etc i predict at least 30%.if not i give up--(as a jew)
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