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RNC Reaches Out to Jewish Voters, But Will They Listen?
ChronWatch ^ | 9-3-04 | Cinnamon Stillwell

Posted on 09/03/2004 7:53:23 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: Made in USA
It was Truman who turned the war around because he helped the Jews form their own state of Israel. FDR let the Jews die without coming to their aid and Truman saw what God said in the Bible for his chosen people and God's hand changed the war in our favor after that. Read Michael Evan's latest book "The American Prophecies".

Recognized Israel, and imposed an immediate arms embargo, on Israel, not the Arab states. Were it for Truman's policies, Israel likely wouldn't have survived.

21 posted on 09/03/2004 8:42:06 AM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: UncleSamUSA

"We are much more like Zell Miller... our former party has left us, and we are POd and we have found a new party to embrace. And you will see that trend do nothing but grow in the months and years ahead."

I hope you're right.


22 posted on 09/03/2004 8:45:30 AM PDT by airborne (2/504 PIR - 'Devils In Baggy Pants')
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To: Leapfrog

The numbers are not there now and I don't see that changing. Too many liberal jews "hate" christians of the evangelical persuasion. I don't think that they have good reason to do so, but then logic is not the issue.


23 posted on 09/03/2004 8:57:08 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: UncleSamUSA

Please keep up the good work. It isn't easy, but can make a difference. I think you have an uphill battle, but I know about those. I am an NRA member living behind enemy lines in the People's Republik of Kalifornia. Republican governor or not, our state legislature is a wholely owned subsidiary of the DNC.


24 posted on 09/03/2004 9:00:13 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: Maceman
So you're reading the penile enlargement ads?''..LOL....congrats for the BEST line of the week..

Seriously, ponder this..inroads into Jewish support of Dems are more valuable for the $$$$ they deny Dems than for possible voters shifts.. That's becuase the vast majority of the Jewish voters are in states where even if W got 50% of the Jewish vote..it wouldn't make a difference..NY, Cal. Florida is a unique case..High Jewish population..but mainly older..they're dying out.. they still think that the GOP wants to tke away their SocSEc checks...hard to change theri minds..Possible states to impact could be Ohio..( Cleveland area) PA and NJ..a 10% shift in the Jewish vote in some states could tilt them to the GOP...but I think it's got to be a more targeted, localized campaign..

25 posted on 09/03/2004 9:02:06 AM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: SJackson
The "rat party" could run a vicious anti-semitic KKK member for national office and the Jews will vote 90% for the democrats.

Proof? Two words: Robert Byrd.

26 posted on 09/03/2004 9:02:19 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The "rat party" could run a vicious anti-semitic KKK member for national office and the Jews will vote 90% for the democrats...Proof? Two words: Robert Byrd.

Proof of what? Byrd garnered 78% of the vote in the last election, an impressive total, in a state with a Jewish population of 0.1%. It's not West Virginia Jews electing the Klansman.

27 posted on 09/03/2004 9:11:52 AM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: Maceman

LOL! How many women will you have to check out to find it?


28 posted on 09/03/2004 9:15:15 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: SJackson
It's not West Virginia Jews electing the Klansman.

No, but they support his party.

29 posted on 09/03/2004 9:40:56 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: RKV

What about Bush's pretty much leaving Israel alone: "They have a right to defend themselves"?

I know that American Jews are American, but I think many also care alot about Israel's troubles.

Would they vote for Bush if the Dims stuck Arafat out there as the canidate?


(... heh.... Now that I think about it, I can't decide which would make a worse President. Kerry or Arafat...)


30 posted on 09/03/2004 9:46:03 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: RKV


Yet, it is common knowledge that this failed contender for the Democratic nomination incited anti-Jewish violence in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn in 1991 and in Harlem in 1995
31 posted on 09/03/2004 10:01:15 AM PDT by John Lenin (How can you shoot women and children? Easy... you don't lead 'em so much(FMJ))
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To: SJackson
I believe the point that he was making is that Byrd is a powerful Dem, and gets little criticism and probably much support from secular, liberal Jews.

Closer to home, there's the recent boneheaded comments of Fritz Hollings. Inez Tannenbaum's (she's running for Holling's vacated Dem seat) husband is Jewish, and he has hastened to explain that Holling's antisemitic remarks are not antisemitic.

32 posted on 09/03/2004 11:07:59 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Sign the 180, and release TeRAYza's tax returns while you're at it)
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To: John Lenin

And IN SPITE of this American jews vote 90% RAT. I just do not get the logic of it. As I said, I believe it is because of their unreasoning hate/fear of evangelical christians.


33 posted on 09/03/2004 11:13:11 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: expatpat
LOL! How many women will you have to check out to find it?

Hmmm. Good question. I was thinking I'd have to find the moil who did the job 54 years ago. But now that you mention it, I suppose I could have just absent mindedly left it somewhere.

34 posted on 09/03/2004 11:17:22 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: RKV

Excellent speech by Dennis Prager yesterday at the Republican Jewish Coalition (where Cheney spoke also). He told the enormous crowd that they should not fear the so-called religious right, and why they shouldn't. He made his point so well! I'd love to post a copy of that speech.


35 posted on 09/03/2004 11:21:12 AM PDT by firebrand
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...one more time...
The Israel Swing Factor
by Jeffrey S. Helmreich
15 January 2001
[T]he greatest political strength of American Jewry lies in the fact that it is a uniquely swayable bloc . The issue of support for Israel has proven capable of spurring a sizable portion of Jews to switch parties - in large enough numbers to tip the scales in national or statewide elections. Moreover, the "Israel swing vote" is especially open to political courtship because, unlike the interests of other minority groups, support for Israel has long been compatible with traditional Republican and Democratic agendas. By contrast, most other issues (abortion, affirmative action, etc.) cannot be embraced by Republicans or Democrats without alienating certain support bases. A pro-Israel stance runs no such risk. On the other hand, being distinctively unsupportive of Israel can significantly hurt a candidate's chances.

Jewish Vote In Presidential Elections



Year Candidate % of Jewish Vote
1916    
  Hughes (R) 45
  Wilson (D) 55
     
1920    
  Harding (R) 43
  Cox (D) 19
  Debs (Soc) 38
     
1924    
  Coolidge (R) 27
  Davis (D) 51
  La Folette (Progressive) 22
     
1928    
  Hoover (R) 28
  Smith (D) 72
     
1932    
  Hoover (R) 18
  Roosevelt (D) 82
     
1936    
  Landon (R) 15
  Roosevelt (D) 85
     
1940    
  Wilkie (R) 10
  Roosevelt (D) 90
     
1944    
  Dewey (R) 10
  Roosevelt (D) 90
     
1948    
  Dewey (R) 10
  Truman (D) 75
  Wallace (Progressive) 15
     
1952    
  Eisenhower (R) 36
  Stevenson (D) 64
     
1956    
  Eisenhower (R) 40
  Stevenson (D) 60
     
1960    
  Nixon (R) 18
  Kennedy (D) 82
     
1964    
  Goldwater (R) 10
  Johnson (D) 90
     
1968    
  Nixon (R) 17
  Humphrey (D) 81
  Wallace (I) 2
     
1972    
  Nixon (R) 35
  McGovern (D) 65
     
1976    
  Ford (R) 27
  Carter (D) 71
  McCarthy (I) 2
     
1980    
  Reagan (R) 39
  Carter (D) 45
  Anderson (I) 14
     
1984    
  Reagan (R) 31
  Mondale (D) 67
     
1988    
  Bush (R) 35
  Dukakis (D) 64
     
1992    
  Bush (R) 11
  Clinton (D) 80
  Perot (I) 9
     
1996    
  Dole (R) 16
  Clinton (D) 78
  Perot (I) 3
     
2000    
  Bush (R) 19
  Gore (D) 79
  Nader (G) 1


Source: L. Sandy Maisel and Ira Forman, Eds. Jews in American Politics. (Lanham: Rowman & Littlefield, 2001), p. 153.
36 posted on 09/03/2004 11:38:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: ValerieUSA; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach
The more support GWB gives to Israel due to its plight, the more the leftist scum will ooze out from under their rocks to demonstrate against Israel, Jews, and the US government. That is something that will motivate Jewish voters (who already have a very high turnout percentage, historically) more than John Kerry's flipflop about the Fence, and his me-too positions on anything Bush does... "he's wrong, so we're going to do exactly what he does, but better!" ;')
37 posted on 09/03/2004 11:41:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Mamzelle
Actually no point is being made but rather missed, as it always is on FR.

Jewish voting patterns, and you could extend it to minority patterns, isn’t a matter of religion but liberal voting patterns. NY and NY may have a Jewish Senator, but Wisconsin has 2, Minnesota and Oregon one each, states where you need a search party to find the local Jewish population. They’re elected from states characterized by the westward movement of Northeastern liberalism, across the from Ct, NY, and NJ across Pa, Mi, Wi and Mn, to Oregon and California.

You can complain about religious voting patterns all you want, it’s not the issue. You can complain about bigotry, both sides have it, it’s not what anyone is voting on. Issues are a different matter, and what votes GWB picks up will likely be based on his handling of the war on terror (not Israel), and in the younger generation taxes and social security.

On a conversational level, if you asked Inez about Fritz Hollings or Cindy McKinney she’d counter, successfully to an existing Democratic voter, with Pat Buchanan, David Duke, and James Hart. Jimmy “*uck the Jews” Carter, we’ve got James “*uck the Jews” Baker.

You won’t win votes with most of the nonsense posted on these threads, and when the “Jews should get what they deserve” and “GWB should cut off aid to Israel” nonsense starts up, you’ll lose them.

38 posted on 09/03/2004 11:49:47 AM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not to worry, I don't think anyone reads the article.


39 posted on 09/03/2004 11:53:07 AM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: SunkenCiv

look at the votes for nixon-reagan etc i predict at least 30%.if not i give up--(as a jew)


40 posted on 09/03/2004 12:21:23 PM PDT by rang1995
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