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To: OESY

I'm sorry, but I will not believe anyone is conservative until they have as a minimum a "rape/incest/life of mother" pro-life position.

A conservative believes in life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. We can't be robbing people of LIFE and calling ourselves conservative. LIFE is the ultimate value.


6 posted on 09/03/2004 5:31:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

I think you can become a conservative when you work towards smaller government...unlike Bush last night who wants government health centers everywhere.


7 posted on 09/03/2004 5:36:18 AM PDT by Vision ("This is in God's hands now")
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To: xzins
I'm sorry, but I will not believe anyone is conservative until they have as a minimum a "rape/incest/life of mother" pro-life position.

That's absurd. I don't begrudge you're belief, or the importance you place on the pro-life plank. However, you're not doing anyone a favor when you reinvent the language to suit your own needs.

We have a perfectly useful term to describe the pro-life position. We call it pro-life. Conservatism does not mean pro-life, but a whole host of issues, and I think most would agree that conservatism does embrace the pro-life plank. No arguement there.

However, when your definition hinges on the plank you wind up making a fool out of yourself by calling the guy who's anti-tax, pro-gun, pro-freedom, pro-military, ant-socialist, a liberal. Obviously, the liberals would drive this guy out of the liberal camp with torches and pitch forks.

Like it or not, conservatism is the sum of a lot of issues. When you find someone that embraces most (not all) of those issues, you've found someone who's more conservative than not. Period.

29 posted on 09/04/2004 4:26:17 PM PDT by Melas
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