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FYI: Hillary is registered for Prez run
Federal Elections Commission ^ | FEC

Posted on 09/02/2004 11:38:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2

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To: ctdonath2
If Kerry drops out, someone's gotta fill in. Who better?

For the Republicans? Absolutely nobody. That witch is unelectable and would guarantee a blowout for GWB.

21 posted on 09/02/2004 11:46:40 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The blue states will break their own laws to change the ballots.

She will sue the red states to require them to count Kerry votes for her (a la Wellstone-Mondale precedent)

(And you thought it was an accident?)

She is counting on the Court to stay out of her way, and it's a good bet they will.

22 posted on 09/02/2004 11:47:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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To: ctdonath2
Hillary would rather let Kerry go down in flames this year so she can run for an open seat in 2008.
23 posted on 09/02/2004 11:48:03 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: ctdonath2; Psalm 73
> Could they legally pull a "Torricelli Switcheroo"??

Encyclopedia: Thomas Eagleton
"His [Eagleton's] vice-presidential hopes evaporated
when it was revealed shortly after the party convention
that he had been hospitalized on three occasions for
depression and had undergone electroshock therapy.
McGovern removed Eagleton from the ticket and replaced
him with Sargent Shriver."


And that went swimmingly well for the Dems.
24 posted on 09/02/2004 11:48:29 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: Psalm 73

they couldn't legally pull a Torricellie Switcheroo the first time they pulled it so I'm not sure why the illegality of it would stop them now.


25 posted on 09/02/2004 11:49:14 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: Theodore R.

I believe that it is past the deadline to changes to the Ohio ballot.


26 posted on 09/02/2004 11:50:43 AM PDT by midwestmidnight
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To: Puppage

actually there is a certain amount of twisted logic to this. Is there any way Hillary could survive a real campaign? Probably not there would be too much time for her background to get exposed/researched and she would eventually insult everyone. A shorteneed unexpected campaign may be her best shot.


27 posted on 09/02/2004 11:50:51 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: ctdonath2
Go deeper into the link:

Candidate listings may appear here as a result of draft committees or independent expenditure committees registering with the FEC. If no official documents of an authorized committee appear below, the individual identified here has taken no action to become a candidate

Getting herself on the ballots of all 50 states is a whole nother thing from registering a committee to rake in dough with the FEC. The last cut off date is *today*. It took some doing in some states to get George W on every state's ballot, cuz some state deadlines had to be changed to accomidate the late RNC.

28 posted on 09/02/2004 11:52:00 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Unelectable in a normal campaign.

But: a candidate melts down, Dems panic, she is "drafted" as their savior, elation overrides reason for the few weeks before election, media roots for her, McCain-Feingold prevents most talk against her, she slides into office.

Kerry is melting. Swifties rumored to have major move pending. If anyone would be drafted at the last moment, it would be Hillary.


29 posted on 09/02/2004 11:52:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2

Any attempt to remove the selected candidate from the ballot in 50 states, and replace ithat candidate with another - even the Hildebeast, would not succed with equal ease or felicity in every state, and would likely fail in many or most states where it is attempted.

The result would be very confusing to the average voter, to say nothing of the potential legislative and judicial morass. Lawsuits galore would be filed and litigation scheduled and fought through. Most middle of the road voters would be immensely turned off by such an eventually and would turn against the party responsible, leading to an unprecedented debacle for the Dempocrats.

The Democrats would not permit such an eventuality and therefore would not condone Kerry's dropping out before the election. They have their horse already registered, listed, saddled up and on the track. They have to ride that horse to the end of the race, come what may.

I am speaking of political practicalities, not legalistic possibilities. Flights of fancy are not particularly interesting to me. I am willing to stick my neck out and flatly say that this nightmare scenario will never come to pass.

Now, sure, tragedy can always strike and in such cases, a way forward will always be found. I am not interested in any such cases, as they are basically without relevance to a candidate simply up and quiting because he thinks he can't win. That is unprecedented, and we are not about to see it this year.


30 posted on 09/02/2004 11:53:37 AM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Dr Snide

Are there any national polls of Bush -vs- B!tch? I suspect the dems would come off even worse with her.


31 posted on 09/02/2004 11:55:30 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: GoLightly

Point made.

I posted this precisely to stir up any related FEC-type info/requirements/etc. Just looking for any way she could slither into the race.

Anyone have a link showing the deadline for official registration? Rumor is it's tomorrow (Sep. 3).


32 posted on 09/02/2004 11:56:27 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Boundless

I remember it well, and it wasn't easy for the Democrats to pull this off. What saved them was that it was quite early in the season - mid-July, if I recall, far in advance of various state deadlines.


33 posted on 09/02/2004 11:56:45 AM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Jim Noble

But the last presidential debate is scheduled for October 13. She would want to avoid that, lest too many people see that the space between her ears is vacuous.


34 posted on 09/02/2004 11:56:46 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: Leapfrog

Talk about broken-glass Republicans crawling through the street to vote against the hydra.


35 posted on 09/02/2004 11:57:46 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: John Valentine
this nightmare scenario will never come to pass.

Such has happened before at lower levels...

36 posted on 09/02/2004 11:58:01 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Dr Snide
they couldn't legally pull a Torricellie Switcheroo the first time they pulled it so I'm not sure why the illegality of it would stop them now

It's not a question of legality. The electors and the DEM party are on the ballot in all 50 states.

Of course, there is a question of whether enough DEMs would vote for another candidate to win the elctoral college, but that is a practical matter, not a legal one.

37 posted on 09/02/2004 11:58:41 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: John Valentine

> ... it wasn't easy for the Democrats to pull this off.
> What saved them was that it was quite early in the
> season - mid-July, if I recall, far in advance of
> various state deadlines.

This time, they have, what, until the end of today?

If Kerry pulls out after today, it will be a 50-ring circus.


38 posted on 09/02/2004 12:04:11 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Cboldt

Excellent point. In NY, you vote for a named elector N who is promised to vote for X. If X suddenly isn't available, or the electoral vote has no majority, then N can vote for anyone.


39 posted on 09/02/2004 12:11:26 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2
Excellent point. In NY, you vote for a named elector N who is promised to vote for X. If X suddenly isn't available, or the electoral vote has no majority, then N can vote for anyone.

That is the same in all 50 states. Note too, elector N will vote according to party rules, that is, the party will instruct the elector regarding the name of the person that should appear on their electoral college ballot.

40 posted on 09/02/2004 12:13:58 PM PDT by Cboldt
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