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you talking about treating the symptoms, ive never needed the bogus hosts file, i make sure the systems dont get the parasites...

I'm not talking about a professional IT environment. The average FR home user doesn't have your resources. ;-p

and as far as norton being used, the stated os was 98 first edition, nav2k4 doesnt run correctly on first edition... thats a fact published by norton. go run kaspersky, choose the extended def files.. do a full scan, im sure it will find something. kaspersky has 10x the virus defs that norton does and kaspersky will run the newer versions on the older windows 98.

I've only found virus scanners to be of marginal value. Detecting intrustion AFTER infection is pretty bad timing. I just don't trust these tools to adequately restore a compromised system. They're primarily useful in letting you know when you're already screwed.

run studio on my system, i write small custom automation scripts and apps for administration.. works fine with sp2 the new WMI stuff is great. theres a workaround for the sql problem... check technet

The links in my post address these issues for non-IT folks.

and you dont have to shell out 100$, there are used copies of windows 2000 on ebay for 10$ at least 2k is still a supported os plus you get NT security, not 9x windows over a shell.

Sure, getting Win2K on eBay is a good route -- but I prefer XP SP2.

sorry, my soapbox got steped on on this one... i guess i should shut up.. fools keep our company in business. i should see sp2 as a bad thing since it cuts down on 90% of problems

No problem. You're obviously a professional and used to dealing with these sorts of issues. Everyone here can benefit from your experience.

I'm not talking about a professional IT environment. The average FR home user doesn't have your resources. ;-p

http://v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v5consumer/default.aspx?ln=en-us

now they have most of em :P

I was at a technet meeting a few months ago about sp2 and one of the slides they were showing was about "days between virus release and days between patch and days between containment" there are STILL folks out there infected with slammer who have NOT installed the patch released almost a YEAR ago.. most of the viruses are now reverse engineered out of the patches since most patches now come out BEFORE a virus... they take a look at the hole that gets fixed and exploit the hole targeting people who dont load their updates.

www.kaspersky.com free 30 day trial. i suggest everyone scan themselves with the extended database enabled and then uninstall the program (like i said.. it KILLLLLLLSSSS your performance)

but your right, these are home users that dont have time to keep current, microsoft knows that, thats why sp2 nags you to turn on auto updates so that you dont have to worry about it. (feature not in windows 98.......)

"I've only found virus scanners to be of marginal value. Detecting intrustion AFTER infection is pretty bad timing. I just don't trust these tools to adequately restore a compromised system. They're primarily useful in letting you know when you're already screwed."

try kaspersky or panda, even tho nav is the most popular, its the worst one right along side mcafee. Like i said before, nav lets you know when your infected.. just look and see when nav stops running :)

keep on rockin bush2000 maby one day the world will have a safer computing enviroment.