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To: ableChair

Do many of the pro-life people realize that some states had already legalized abortion prior to Roe v Wade and some were close to doing so. So overturning Roe v Wade will not end all abortions.

Another point to be made is that if life begins at conception and this is made the law of the land that many methods of birth control will be outlawed.

This may go over fine with conservative catholics, but all of the people I have discussed this issue with do not want to lose the pill.


28 posted on 09/09/2004 11:29:15 PM PDT by armordog99
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To: armordog99

Well, I'm not that extreme on the issue. I think one can make a purely legal (as opposed to religious) argument for assuming that life begins at conception. Basically, if we can abort a child at the second trimester, then why can't we abort a 2 year old? What's the difference? I know it may sound silly on the face of it, but some wacko will eventually end up arguing that somehow a 2 year old is not 'as conscious' as an adult, and therefore is something like a fetus. I just think there's no end to this kind of thinking. The minute you assume a fetus is somehow ethically different from an adult, you go down a slippery slope of fallacious reasoning. I accept certain provisions to the anti-abortion/pro-life stance. I think birth control is essential and I would point out that most forms of birth control pill are preventive in that they PREVENT conception; as opposed to 'after the fact' pills that kill the fetus (these are relatively new pills - RU 486). Finally, I would argue that abortion for the physical health of the mother, or in cases of rape or incest, should be legal. The key is that we need to stop abortion on demand; not necessarily all abortions. You are quite correct about the law prior to Roe v. Wade. That's why there should be a FEDERAL law illegalizing abortion except in the cases outlined above.


29 posted on 09/10/2004 10:12:34 AM PDT by ableChair
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To: armordog99
So overturning Roe v Wade will not end all abortions.

That is a liberal myth. I don't know any pro-lifer who thinks so. Roe v Wade is only the first step.

We need to tell those who believe in some abortion restrictions (i.e. the MAJORITY) that we will get NONE until Roe v Wade is repealed and then each can be passed through legislature.

32 posted on 09/11/2004 2:19:16 AM PDT by stands2reason (Limousine Liberal--a man who has his cake, eats his cake, and complains that other people have cake.)
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