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MEN FROM EARLY MIDDLE AGES WERE NEARLY AS TALL AS MODERN PEOPLE
eurekalert.com ohio state university ^ | Richard Steckel

Posted on 09/01/2004 12:02:19 PM PDT by ckilmer

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1 posted on 09/01/2004 12:02:19 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

i'll read this later


2 posted on 09/01/2004 12:03:01 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Hal Jordan returns!)
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To: ckilmer

Next they're going to say there's no such thing as Global Warming!


3 posted on 09/01/2004 12:03:54 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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ping


4 posted on 09/01/2004 12:06:23 PM PDT by marron
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To: ckilmer

Does not sound right - every knight's armor I have ever seen is built for smaller men - and they would have been the ones to live a "good" life.


5 posted on 09/01/2004 12:06:25 PM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: ckilmer
I'm going to say that people in the early Middle Ages ate a lot more meat on average than city dwellers in the late Middle Ages who ate mostly grain.

Eating protein in the adolescent years is important.

6 posted on 09/01/2004 12:07:51 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: ckilmer

At 39 years old I consider myself to be "early middle aged". I was just as tall this morning as I am now.


7 posted on 09/01/2004 12:08:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: 2banana
Does not sound right - every knight's armor I have ever seen is built for smaller men - and they would have been the ones to live a "good" life.

They data could show that average height in 1300 was 5'5" and average height in 1700 was 5'3".

8 posted on 09/01/2004 12:09:13 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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Does not sound right - every knight's armor I have ever seen is built for smaller men - and they would have been the ones to live a "good" life.

Of course, some of these suits of armor only look small because they're not being worn. The 'give' in all of the joints can add up to a few more inches of height, when fully extended.
9 posted on 09/01/2004 12:10:00 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: ckilmer

Don't care.


10 posted on 09/01/2004 12:11:01 PM PDT by hankbrown
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I'm a male in early middle age, but I'm taller than modern college researchers.


11 posted on 09/01/2004 12:12:17 PM PDT by FreedomFarmer (No, this is Shineola.)
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I find issue with the conclusions of the report in that it does not address a well-known dietetic issue related to Chinese height variance. In the northern climes of China where wheat is more prevalent the heights are statistically superior to those in the southern climes where rice is the prevalent staple.

The findings sound plausible, but I believe that the conclusions are unsupported.

I could understand an argument that states inferior/reduced agricultural production later in history led to a decline in height. However, what I see here is an evolutionary assumption that 'as production capabilities increased man's height must also increase' being challenged. Correlation does not make for causation. Therefore the conclusions are unsupported within the article as presented.


12 posted on 09/01/2004 12:17:43 PM PDT by reed13
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To: 2banana

Also doesn't match the size of doorways in very old houses, or the size of bunks on old sailing ships.


13 posted on 09/01/2004 12:18:43 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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The climate changed rather dramatically in the 1300s, when the Little Ice Age triggered a cooling trend that wreaked havoc on northern Europe for the following 400 to 500 years

Well, we certainly know who to blame for THIS!

14 posted on 09/01/2004 12:21:48 PM PDT by T Minus Four (From the Holy City of Hill Air Force Base, Utah)
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To: wideawake
Eating protein in the adolescent years is important.

I thought so too, but my son, who will be 16 in a few weeks, is following precisely the same growth schedule I did, and is now over 5'11", despite becoming a vegetarian over a year ago and refusing to eat high-protein foods like beans and peanut butter. His feet are already as big as mine (I'm 6' 2 1/4").

His mother is under 5' 2", so if he gets taller than me it won't be because of genetics.

If your nutrition is "good enough", you will follow your preprogrammed genetic schedule -- even a diet relatively low in protein is "good enough" today, when food is so abundant. The main thing is to avoid any period of deprivation while growing up.

Supplements won't really help. If you want to get taller than you are genetically programmed for, you will have to eat huge amounts and get fat too, or else exercise in an extremely rigorous way, and even those steps will only give you an inch or two.

15 posted on 09/01/2004 12:24:11 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: hankbrown

Then don't read.


16 posted on 09/01/2004 12:24:47 PM PDT by Constitution Day ("The Democratic tent has shrunk to the size of a dunce cap." - Zell Miller)
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To: ckilmer

I could have saved the guy lots of effort...
The buildings in Germany from the 1000's (ie. Goslar) have doors around 5'x2.5'. Armor from that period is not much larger, for individuals around 5'3".
The beds made for miners in Gold Rush California (1850's) are only about 5' length (ie. Columbia State Park or Bodie).
Karl the Great (Charlemagne) was considered average height at 5'6" in the 800's. He was nobility and Emperor.
Poor have been small until recently, rich have been taller.
More fish and flesh, more height, more starch - less.
The guy could have checked the cemetaries - sarcophaguses...plotted sizes from northern Europe to Italy...

I hope his study wasn't govenment funded.


17 posted on 09/01/2004 12:24:57 PM PDT by Prost1 (Why isn't Berger in jail?)
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To: ckilmer

bump


18 posted on 09/01/2004 12:25:35 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite
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To: Mr Rogers

Have a closer look at a uniform worn by the average WW II soldier. A size 40 coat was large.


19 posted on 09/01/2004 12:25:37 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


20 posted on 09/01/2004 12:27:34 PM PDT by Constitution Day ("The Democratic tent has shrunk to the size of a dunce cap." - Zell Miller)
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