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Left at the gate - Spirited young GOPers ignored by party elders
New York Daily News ^ | August 31, 2004 | Errol Louis

Posted on 09/01/2004 10:53:11 AM PDT by rmlew

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1 posted on 09/01/2004 10:53:12 AM PDT by rmlew
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"Party leaders seem to think success in New York depends on presenting Republicans as genteel, inoffensively moderate and even liberal at times"

Unfortunately, this statement appears to be dead on target.
2 posted on 09/01/2004 10:57:06 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: rmlew

GM vs. Toyota. Yesterday they talked about big media and blog/Free Republic. Today they talk about the YR vs the Old (europe) GOP. The youth will be served much sooner. There will be another Reagan Revolution and the old GOP will be swept out.


3 posted on 09/01/2004 10:57:32 AM PDT by q_an_a
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So some guy doesn't get selected in NY and its a sign that all young Republicans are disenchanted? Leap? So what about Erika Harold? She doesn't look old and white but she's got a lot of support behind her and spoke at the convention.


4 posted on 09/01/2004 10:57:53 AM PDT by Naspino (HTTP://NASPINO.COM)
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As said before, the democratic party will die and the Repubicans will split.


5 posted on 09/01/2004 11:18:58 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (seeking the truth here folks.)
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"devoted to ... less government,"


Putting them squarely at odds with the Bush Administration.


6 posted on 09/01/2004 11:33:52 AM PDT by Blzbba (John F'in Kerry - Dawn of a New Error.)
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Youth is nice, but it needs the tempering and maturity that comes with a few extra years. These are resources that need to be developed, not shot from a canon.


7 posted on 09/01/2004 11:47:48 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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So some guy doesn't get selected in NY and its a sign that all young Republicans are disenchanted? Leap? So what about Erika Harold? She doesn't look old and white but she's got a lot of support behind her and spoke at the convention.

The columnist is talking about New York only. And he has a point.

8 posted on 09/01/2004 11:58:53 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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Who can deny that the NY republicans have had a good thing going for themselves for the past few decades. So what if they're in 2nd place - they take care of themselves and they don't want to lose a good thing.

It's all corruption - anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy...


9 posted on 09/01/2004 11:59:04 AM PDT by Gigantor (Por favor, mantengase alejado de las puertas...)
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"Party leaders seem to think success in New York depends on presenting Republicans as genteel, inoffensively moderate and even liberal at times"

Unfortunately, this statement appears to be dead on target.

2 posted on 09/01/2004 10:57:06 AM PDT by NJ_gent

Right you are NJ_gent.

Allow me to add, also being perfectly content to be thw whipping boys of both the democrat party and the mainstream media.


10 posted on 09/01/2004 12:05:31 PM PDT by sport
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The issue is much more of a state party that wants to cherry pick pliant candidates and officials. They are quite willing to sabotage conservatives and even reform-minded moderates.


12 posted on 09/01/2004 12:31:50 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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Seems like WFB formed a conservative party - in fact, I think that was what it was named? some time ago, in New York, in response to this very attitude on the part of the GOP...


13 posted on 09/01/2004 1:15:52 PM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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BTTT


14 posted on 09/01/2004 1:20:34 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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They're young party outsiders who have been running spirited campaigns in politically hostile districts for the last few years, only to be thwarted at every turn - primarily by leaders of their own party.

The dispute appears to be based on ideology. The young, self-styled urban Republicans call themselves conservative in the tradition of Ronald Reagan: devoted to low taxes, less government, school vouchers and a no-nonsense approach to crime and national security.

The chieftains of the New York GOP often give lip service to the same positions but have either stood in the way of the young activists or denied them crucial help when it counted.

Amen to that. Spot on analysis, but it happens in California too.

15 posted on 09/01/2004 1:24:20 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault...)
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They give no consideration to anybody but their handpicked candidates

Welcome to politics. Nothing new here. My Father was a member the California State Central Committee, appointed by Congressman Ketchum. When Ketchum died unexpectedly, his former primary rival,Bill Thomas, was appointed to the congressional seat and immediately kicked my Father out of the Central Committee and put his own people in. Bill Thomas hand picked Kevin McCarthy for the State Assembly and is grooming him to eventually take over Thomas' seat in Congress. Heaven help any Repuplican who challenges Kevin McCarthy.

16 posted on 09/01/2004 1:36:24 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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Perhaps. But when he engages in wishful thinking and starts implying that these guys just may jump to the 'rats, that is just not going to happen.

I personally know the disgruntled Republicans in this article, and there is just no way in hell that they're going to turn left.

The major problem is that they are hardcore conservatives (on just about every issue), and *that* is why they are often shunned by the party machine. I'd sooner expect the party machine people to become disgruntled and head for the Jackass Party before these guys would!


17 posted on 09/01/2004 2:19:44 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Kerry is a Sitzpinkler!)
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Hornak, a political consultant, managed last year's City Council candidacies of Jennifer Arangio, Josh Yablon and Jay Golub, who challenged, respectively, Gifford Miller, Gale Brewer and Margarita Lopez.

At least we field candidates in New York, more than I can say for certain other cities.

18 posted on 09/01/2004 2:25:04 PM PDT by Clemenza (You've gotta love living, because dying's such a pain in the a-s!)
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Perhaps. But when he engages in wishful thinking and starts implying that these guys just may jump to the 'rats, that is just not going to happen.

I personally know the disgruntled Republicans in this article, and there is just no way in hell that they're going to turn left.

Thanks for writing that! That's good to hear.

19 posted on 09/01/2004 3:37:18 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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“Conservatism, we are told, is out-of-date. The charge is preposterous and we ought boldly to say so. The laws of God, and of nature, have no dateline. The principles on which the Conservative political position is based have been established by a process that has nothing to do with the social, economic and political landscape that changes from decade to decade and from century to century. These principles are derived from the nature of man, and from the truths that God has revealed about His creation. Circumstances do change. So do the problems that are shaped by circumstances. But the principles that govern the solution of the problems do not. To suggest that the Conservative philosophy is out of date is akin to saying that the Golden Rule, or the Ten Commandments or Aristotle's Politics are out of date. The Conservative approach is noth ing more or less than an attempt to apply the wisdom and experience and the revealed truths of the past to the problems of today.” – Barry Goldwater, The Conscience Of A Conservative, 1960.

Barry Goldwater, The Conscience Of A Conservative.

20 posted on 09/01/2004 4:29:33 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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