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Posted on 09/01/2004 10:46:56 AM PDT by FlyLow
Nope - not a chance.
Rep. Jim Kolbe NEVER gave a keynote speech at a Republican National Convention. NEVER. I remember him once giving a minor speech on trade policy at a past RNC.
Of course it is! They own the camera, VTR, transmitter, and antenna err cable earth station. They have the full right to run whatever ads they want. Not that I agree that they should have pulled that ad, because I don't.
The ad closes with images of the Rev. Fred Phelps holding a sign that reads "God Hates Fags," at the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a University of Wyoming student murdered by two young men who attacked him because he was homosexual.
Good for CNN. I can't imagine ever agreeing with those turkeys, but the attempt to paint Falwell, Buchanan, and Santorum with the Phelps brush is below disgusting and does not deserve air time.
Thinking that homosexuality has no place in our public discourse is mainstream and supportable. Thinking that "G-d hates fags" is extreme and stupid.
Shalom.
And the Log Cabin Republicans are bashing *Republicans* over Fred Phelps? He's a Democrat who was invited to both Clinton-Gore inaugurals, for goodness sakes.
I didn't say he did. I said he gave the keynote speech at the Log Cabin Republican convention.
They can just take their logs and shove them up their...oh, wait....nevermind.
On second thought I decided that there is no inconsistency at all. In order to continue trumpeting the false image of the Republican party as made of only white, rich, male, bible-thumping, cruel, cigar-smoking, narrow-minded hate mongers they must supress the voice of the LCR.
Of course the ad ignored the deaths of JESSE DIRKHISING who was brutally raped, tortured and murdered by a 'monogomous' sodomite couple or of MARY STACHOWICZ who was bludgeoned to death by her sodomite renter because she was a Christian.
It's put out by a bunch of sodomites. Of course it's in bad taste
True conservatives should believe in keeping the government out of any individual's bedroom...I don't believe in gay marriage but I don't believe that all gay people are perverted...I don't like homosexual or heterosexual pedophiles...I support the Boys Scout's right to exclude openly gay male troop leaders just as I am against having heterosexual men in charge of Girl Scout troops...I support an amendment to the constitution to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman BUT...and here's the big BUT...I do believe in civil unions...I had a gay male friend about 15 years ago whose live-in boyfriend was dying of cancer in the hospital...they had been together for over 8 years and were monogamous...the dying man's family exluded Doug from visiting him in the hospital and he was also excluded from funeral/ burial plans...I found it horrific that he had no rights whatsoever to visit his dying friend.
"Rep. Jim Kolbe NEVER gave a keynote speech at a Republican National Convention."
Well, I surely wouldn't do to the homosexuals what Leviticus wants me to do. Personal sexual behavior and it's consequences are between God and the individual in question, not between the indivisual and you or me. I do not share the animosity towards homos that many of my fellow freepers seem to have. I fall into both camps (or neither camp) on this issue.
The American government --state or federal-- including the rogue court systems, should never be placed in a position where they can either officially condone homosexuality ( as they do when they reverse thousands of years of human nature to legislate "gay marriage" or adoption), or officially condemn it (as in the abysmal sodomy laws that several states had on the books).
The Log Cabin Republicans are NOT, in theory, anathema to the Republican party, as long as we still believe in the rights of the individual to make his economic, lifestyle, religious, etc. choices for himself, and for government to get out of the people's business.
On the other hand, the Log Cabin Republic has become a sort of liberal version of the Amnesty-sticklers on this site. The Log Cabins, by focusing on a single social issue which they disagree with the President on, risk harming the future of their own party (and electing the disgusting commie John kerry).
The Log Cabins, and the Amnesty-sticklers both need to remember that the most important issue of this campaign is--bar none--The War on Terror.
What will gay rights and illegal amnesty matter to us if the Islamo-terrorists blow us off the face of the Earth?
[and hey, I'd also like to keep John from jacking our taxes sky-high to pay for his socialist programs]
VOTE BUSH.
Two points, CNN is cable, may be under different rules than broadcast, I'm not really sure. Next, ads directly by candidates are treated differently than advocacy group ads. I recall, Sen. Hutchison's first run here in Texas, one primary opponent, Stephen Hopkins, if I recall correctly, ran a single issue, pro-life campaign. His ads consisted mostly of grotesquely ugly images of aborted fetuses, bloody and dismembered. Alright already, the images were real, such is part of why I am pro-life, but most families really don't care to explain to the wee kidlets such fare at or near suppertime. I do recall all the stations could do was run a disclaimer prior to each add alerting people to what was coming, and explaining they had no authority to limit the man's timing or content. Very few people caught more than one viewing, and Hopkins ran dead last in an eight way race. Hutchison, by the way, won her first term with about 63% in the general.
I have little respect for the Log Cabin Republicans. However, I sent them an email about this commercial, because it is a travesty to link Democrat Fred Phelps to the Republican Party. It calls into complete question their credibility and I thought they should be aware of this.
Fred Phelps is not only not a Republican (he is a registered Democrat and runs for office as a Democrat), he hates America and has participated in many anti-America demonstrations. He likes Saddam Hussein, protested America in Baghdad, and runs a website called "God Hates America". He also says "God Hates Rush Limbaugh" and protested Rush. For this man to be tied to the Republican party is an outright lie.
I think Fred Phelps is a Democrat and there's an association with Gore. Google "Gore/Phelps"
Right. Sorry about that.
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I do believe in civil unions
Everything a civil union would do is already available under contract law. Civil unions are an unneccesary government endorsement of abnormal (and socially harmful) behavior
I found it horrific that he had no rights whatsoever to visit his dying friend.
He had no relationship to the dying man. He was not family nor did he have power of attorney. It wasn't his business to interfere with the family's grief. What probably happened is that the family had been mourning the loss of their son to the sodomite lifestyle for years and now that the lifestyle had killed him the last thing they wanted was a sodomite at the funeral. I would do the same.
I disagree. The purpose of government is to regulate behavior so that society can function properly. Some behaviors such as murder and child molesting and fraud are just not to be tolerated. The practice of homosexuality is one of these behaviors and it is government's role to condemn it
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