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Hurricane Frances : 2004-09-01 (New Thread)
Various | 2004-09-01 | Patton@Bastogne

Posted on 09/01/2004 3:15:34 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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Welcome to Wednesday's Hurricane Frances news-twist !

It looks like a Melbourne Landfall after all, once again (to Section9's worst fears) churning it's way North along the Coast Highway ...



Excellent Hurricane Frances Websites:

HURRICANE ALLEY

U.S. Weather Observers






Patton@Bastogne
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TOPICS: Announcements; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: South Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: frances; hurricane; hurricanefrances
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To: SomeCallMeTim
I'm with you. I think the NHC is still projecting too much of a northerly track for the storm. Not only will residents south of the projected track have a sense of complacency, but the storm will arrive sooner.

I think this storm stands a pretty good chance of striking the US twice.

161 posted on 09/01/2004 7:40:13 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: NonValueAdded

Yeah, my wife and fil just went to the Home Depot on Malabar rd. and pretty much said the same thing about the lines. They got batteries and left.


162 posted on 09/01/2004 7:41:22 AM PDT by ksen (*blink* *blink*)
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To: NonValueAdded

Palm Bay is north of Vero Beach, yes? About 1/2 way between Melbourne and Vero? Getting out of Dodge is a good plan at this point!


163 posted on 09/01/2004 7:42:29 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

My family is attending a wedding in Miami this weekend. My wife and kids just arrived there and I am scheduled to fly out tomorrow evening. Can't help thinking that maybe it was irresponsible of me to let my wife and kids go. We are staying at a hotel in Miami and we were supposed to go on a 3 day cruise right after the wedding in Nassau. Does anyone have any advice for us if the hurricane does hit Miaimi? Since my family is there already, I will make every effort to go there and be with them if things do get bad. Like I said, I'm feeling guilty about letting them go and want to be with them if this thing hits. Any advice on how to deal with a hurricane when you are staying at a hotel.


164 posted on 09/01/2004 7:42:41 AM PDT by angelrod
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To: SomeCallMeTim

That still leaves the space coast on the northeast side of the storm. I hope you are right on the inertia point but that storm is so darn big that it is going to cover the state.


165 posted on 09/01/2004 7:43:22 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry was in the Senate???)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I hope it obliterates Disney in Orlando. I hope there is NO sign it was ever there.


166 posted on 09/01/2004 7:43:24 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I hope it obliterates Disney in Orlando. I hope there is NO sign it was ever there.

ONLY DISNEY!


167 posted on 09/01/2004 7:44:20 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Therefore, I'm planning to request that my ex-wife evaculate with three (3) kids (via I-95 and then I-4) first thing Thursday morning.

Excellent concept. I hope she pays attention and heeds your request.

168 posted on 09/01/2004 7:44:23 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Jennifer in Florida

Howdy Jennifer,

Wow,it's a small world,my daughter's name is Jennifer-and she's in Port St' Lucie..she says that they're planning on leaving by thursday-heading north -they don't even know where yet..after reading some of these posts,I'm starting to worry they may wind up on the I-95 "parking lot"..maybe I should give em a holler and tell them that ain't such a good idea.


169 posted on 09/01/2004 7:44:32 AM PDT by TongRat ("Dang it Rat ! make the daggum pliers bite !")
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To: Jennifer in Florida

Jennifer, PB is near the space center. Convince the inlaws to come over for a visit. Glad you made it through Charlie [I like the way you put that :) ].


170 posted on 09/01/2004 7:46:00 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry was in the Senate???)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Shear is one thing...the gulf stream is another. The shear might effect it near landfall but the fuel will be right there to replace it.

I would assume that the meteorologists producing the forecast have taken into account for the shear vs. gulfstream in their prediction of some weakening over the next 72hrs. Of course putting one faith in forecasting capabilities of most weathermen may not be justified. But either way, Florida can expect a strong Cat 4 or even a Cat 5 storm this weekend.

Continuing prayers for those in the storm's path.

171 posted on 09/01/2004 7:47:17 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: Brytani

My strategy is to wait and see which direction to evacuate if it is necessary. I think going to FL west coast would be out of the question since Frances could follow me out there. Most likely Frances would curve in from the south going north if it hits Broward county. In that event I would go south and stay in Miami. If it looks like it hits anywhere north of about Lake Worth then I stay put here.


172 posted on 09/01/2004 7:47:52 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: NonValueAdded

Amazing how many Freepers live in Brevard County. It's nice to know.


173 posted on 09/01/2004 7:49:15 AM PDT by submarinerswife
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To: Jennifer in Florida

Hey neighbor :) I'm in Cape Coral too, watching this storm closely because, as you know, just about every house in town has piles of debris/logs.etc sittin out on the lawn for pick up, as far as the eye can see. Wouldn't want any of that stuff flying around even if we just get a *little bit* of wind, that's for sure.


174 posted on 09/01/2004 7:49:46 AM PDT by Flipyaforreal (Non sembra mai arduo cio che si fa volontariamente. Bush in '04.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Sorry for the shouting- Weather Underground must be swamped...

HURRICANE FRANCES FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 31
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL062004
1500Z WED SEP 01 2004

AT 11 AM...1500Z...THE GOVERNMENT OF THE BAHAMAS HAS ISSUED A
HURRICANE WARNING FOR THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS...WHICH INCLUDES...
CAT...EXUMAS...LONG ISLANDS...RUM CAY AND SAN SALVADOR AND A
HURRICANE WATCH FOR THE NORTHWEST BAHAMAS...WHICH INCLUDES
THE ABACOS...ANDROS...BERRY ISLANDS...BIMINI...ELEUTHERA...GRAND
BAHAMA AND NEW PROVIDENCE.

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN
BAHAMAS...WHICH INCLUDES ACKLINS...CROOKED...INAGUAS...MAYAGUANA
AND RAGGED ISLANDS...AND FOR THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS.

A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO
PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION. A
HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE
WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT THE NORTH COAST OF THE
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC FROM PUNTA GORDA WESTWARD TO MANZANILLO BAY.

HURRICANE CENTER LOCATED NEAR 21.7N 69.8W AT 01/1500Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 15 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST OR 290 DEGREES AT 14 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 937 MB
EYE DIAMETER 25 NM
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 120 KT WITH GUSTS TO 145 KT.
64 KT....... 70NE 55SE 45SW 60NW.
50 KT.......120NE 100SE 75SW 100NW.
34 KT.......160NE 130SE 100SW 150NW.
12 FT SEAS..275NE 160SE 160SW 275NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 21.7N 69.8W AT 01/1500Z
AT 01/1200Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 21.4N 69.1W

FORECAST VALID 02/0000Z 22.6N 71.8W
MAX WIND 125 KT...GUSTS 155 KT.
64 KT... 70NE 55SE 45SW 60NW.
50 KT...120NE 100SE 75SW 100NW.
34 KT...160NE 130SE 100SW 150NW.

FORECAST VALID 02/1200Z 24.0N 74.0W
MAX WIND 125 KT...GUSTS 155 KT.
64 KT... 70NE 55SE 45SW 60NW.
50 KT...120NE 100SE 75SW 100NW.
34 KT...160NE 130SE 100SW 150NW.

FORECAST VALID 03/0000Z 25.0N 76.0W
MAX WIND 130 KT...GUSTS 160 KT.
64 KT... 70NE 60SE 50SW 70NW.
50 KT...120NE 110SE 90SW 110NW.
34 KT...170NE 140SE 110SW 160NW.

FORECAST VALID 03/1200Z 26.0N 77.5W
MAX WIND 130 KT...GUSTS 160 KT.
50 KT...120NE 110SE 90SW 110NW.
34 KT...170NE 140SE 110SW 160NW.

FORECAST VALID 04/1200Z 27.5N 80.0W
MAX WIND 125 KT...GUSTS 155 KT.
50 KT...120NE 110SE 70SW 90NW.
34 KT...180NE 160SE 90SW 120NW.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 325 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 05/1200Z 29.0N 82.0W...INLAND
MAX WIND 75 KT...GUSTS 90 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 06/1200Z 31.6N 84.5W...INLAND
MAX WIND 30 KT...GUSTS 40 KT.

REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 21.7N 69.8W

NEXT ADVISORY AT 01/2100Z

FORECASTER AVILA


175 posted on 09/01/2004 7:50:19 AM PDT by libtoken
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To: My Favorite Headache

Howdy neighbor! I'm glad people are taking this seriously and hope the panic doesn't overwhelm reasoned urgency (yeah, right!) Stay safe.


176 posted on 09/01/2004 7:50:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry was in the Senate???)
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To: NonValueAdded
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NonValueAdded,


I expect Melbourne Beach and Satellite Beach area to get blasted if Frances comes within 35 miles of the Melbourne International (LOL) Airport.

Palm Bay ?

The Highway that runs along the Indian River (US-1 ?) could seen significant wind damage, plus a couple of feet of water.

That means areas up to Babcock Street area get heavy wind and water damage.



Harris Corporation and DRS Corporation (bless their hearts /sarcasm-off) could really take a severe beating.

Doncha know that Rick "Whats-His-Name" is glad he unloaded (dumped) the Paravant Company to DRS about a year ago. What a guy ! (/sarcasm-off).

Paravant was the kind of company where they don't tell you the place has a mandatory Christmas Shutdown (10 days), BUT that you have to use your annual vacation to "pay for it", and you find out about this "arrangement" in November.

Apologies for diverging ... but any engineers having dealings with ex-Paravant Management need to be VERY careful.



Patton@Bastogne


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177 posted on 09/01/2004 7:50:54 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: angelrod
...right after the wedding in Nassau

Nassau? You may want to check on that as Frances is currently on track to go right over the Bahamas.

178 posted on 09/01/2004 7:51:14 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
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To: PJ-Comix
I'm coming into this thread from the back end, so maybe this has been addressed...

There has to be an economic impact, given that Labor Day weekend is upon us, everywhere from Key West up to the Georgia coast and maybe beyond. The phone lines must be burning up with holiday cancellations.

What a bummer.

179 posted on 09/01/2004 7:52:33 AM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Palm Bay is north of Vero Beach, yes?

I stayed at the Ramada Inn in Palm Bay for a couple of days back in 2002. That might be a good place to ride out the storm...depending on where it hits.

180 posted on 09/01/2004 7:54:14 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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