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Sierra Conservancy bill moves to governor's desk
Ag Alert ^ | September 1, 2004 | Christine Souza

Posted on 08/31/2004 5:52:37 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer

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1 posted on 08/31/2004 5:52:41 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: farmfriend; SierraWasp; forester; calcowgirl

FYI


2 posted on 08/31/2004 5:53:16 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: LibreOuMort
"Time to contact some family" ping

Look at the map...

3 posted on 08/31/2004 5:54:49 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi ||| Resource for Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Some things Arnie just doesn't get right.


4 posted on 08/31/2004 6:32:57 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: hedgetrimmer

Incredible!


5 posted on 08/31/2004 6:37:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .... http://www.freekerrybook.com/ ..... 'The New Soldier' in pdf format)
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To: taxesareforever

His general plan guidelines institute environmental justice, with is antithetical to equal justice guaranteed by our Constitution, and Sustainable Development, the United Nations plan for global socialism.

Any man, governor, terminator or whatever, that wishes to impose these ideologies on this state or any other, is not freedom's friend:

2003 General Plan Guidelines
The final version of the 2003 General Plan Guidelines is now available. Below are some of the highlights of this revised edition:

Environmental Justice: AB 1553 (Keeley, 2001) requires OPR to include environmental justice in the General Plan Guidelines. These guidelines for environmental justice must also include transit oriented development (TOD). Environmental justice and TOD are discussed in Chapter 2. Specific data or policy suggestions are also integrated into Chapter 4 (Required Elements of the General Plan) and Chapter 6 (Optional Elements).

Optional Elements: The 2003 General Plan Guidelines provides guidance on two new optional elements: water and energy.

Public Participation: Chapter 8 is a new chapter on the role of community participation in the general plan process, including desired goals and tools to achieve those goals. Although not required by AB 1553, this chapter addresses important environmental justice concerns related to inclusiveness and process.

Sustainable Development: The discussion of sustainability from the 1998 Guidelines has been revised and incorporated into the discussion of environmental justice.

Format and Element Consolidation: Chapter 5 updates and combines several sections from the 1998 Guidelines and OPR's technical advisory, Element Consolidation, in order to discuss how cities and counties can create consistent, usable general plans.

Annual Progress Reports: Planning agencies are required to monitor their progress in implementing their general plan and to report on their progress annually. The draft revised Guidelines explain this requirement and offer suggestions on how to prepare an annual progress report.


6 posted on 08/31/2004 7:05:44 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer; farmfriend; calcowgirl; tubebender; forester; Carry_Okie; Jim Robinson
My, my... Aren't we just so proud as rural Sierran Californian's... NOT!!!

He gave a wonderful speech tonight! I liked it a lot!! But when he signs this abomination, I'll blot every word of it out of my memory as pure unadulterated baloney!!!

If he vetoes it, then I'll believe what I've heard from him this evening!!!

7 posted on 08/31/2004 7:49:12 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Success is still the best revenge... In the land of the free... Because of the brave!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
If he vetoes it, then I'll believe what I've heard from him this evening!!! DITTOS...
8 posted on 08/31/2004 7:54:14 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Damn, as much as I despise Kalifornia I didn't REALLY want to see them destroy themselves in the very near future.

This and the just enacted "gun control" will put the final nail's in their coffin.

The worst thing is that it will lead to even more liberals fleeing to Nevada, so that they can conveniently visit what they still see ad "Good" about Kali. without actually having to tolerate living there.

While here they will of course work to remake Nevada into another liberal cesspool, certain that they can make their failed policies work here when they already destroyed Kalifornia.

Save both states, get this bill killed and keep the Kali's IN Kalifornia!


9 posted on 08/31/2004 8:04:00 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: tubebender; FairOpinion; DoughtyOne; Ernest_at_the_Beach; editor-surveyor
"If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government...then you are a REPUBLICAN!"

Then WHY do you encourage just the opposite from your rhetoric, Governor Schwarzenegger? Another layer of government with electeds in the minority is not what you described tonight!!!

The "People" of the Sierran Region have fought this for over a decade and you, a Republican, just hand this over to GANG-GREEN, giving them a Demonicrat victory of huge proportions!

This will be the scourge of the Sierra-Nevada and the California Cascades for decades!!! (until we use it to create the 51st State called Sierra Republic)

10 posted on 08/31/2004 8:32:01 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Success is still the best revenge... In the land of the free... Because of the brave!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

If he signs it, I suggest some form of initiative that obliterates this conservancey and eliminates all futher government funds to purchase, manage or otherwise interfere with private property rights.

Further, it would be a great thing to pass some legislation that would roll back the conservancies formed prior to this.

I'd like nothing less than the disolution of all California conservancies with the land being gifted back to the California and American public.

These commie land grabs are quazi governmental and should be illegal. Most of them have been granted huge sums from the federal government to steal our land from us.


11 posted on 08/31/2004 8:51:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer
"If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government...then you are a REPUBLICAN!"

I thought the speech was great... I only wish the actions were consistent with the words.

This whole conservancy thing saddens and disgusts me at the same time.
If people weren't outraged by this, this state is in deep #%^&!!!

Thanks for the map hedgetrimmer...
and thanks for keepin' it small; a larger version would be even more frightening.

12 posted on 08/31/2004 9:03:15 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: DoughtyOne; farmfriend; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie
I'm thinking of going to the Farm Bureau, the Grange, the Regional Council of Rural Counties, the Mountain County Water Resource Association, all the legitimate Chambers of Commerce in the Sierran/Cascade Region and organizing an umbrella organization called SIERRA REPUBLIC (complete with website) and looking first into litigation, then an initiative in each of the 22 counties, along with all the cities, towns and special districts to begin the process of Statehood for "Sierra Republic." (if he signs this damn thing)

Can anyone think of other representative, or membership organizations or groups, even service clubs? (excluding the Sierra Flub of course) It'll be a hell of an up-hill challenge with Fienstein and Boxer as our Senators, but what the hell... Why not???

While everyone swoons across the nation over a speech that will ring hollower than an empty boxcar if he returns from a Republican Convention to enslave the private property of the Sierra, then it will be well worth it to force him to "shove it!"

It won't ever be enough to the GANG-GREEN groups if we just restore the "status quo" by overturning all the CONservacancies, that's just a "check" move they can counter. We need a "checkmate" to stop 'em cold!!!

13 posted on 08/31/2004 9:12:11 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Success is still the best revenge... In the land of the free... Because of the brave!!!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Did you assign this posting to a "sidebar" catagory? Did it already get bumped down off any sidebar? Or was it removed?

Just curious...

14 posted on 08/31/2004 9:17:12 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Success is still the best revenge... In the land of the free... Because of the brave!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
I'll help even though I don't live in any of the targeted counties. You just let me know what I can do.

Try the state Cattleman's association, and there's got to be a state forestry association that would get involved.

Try some of the off-roaders, they have a strong commitment to private property rights and may help.

Crowley off road and the Blue Ribbon coalition might help.
15 posted on 08/31/2004 9:23:34 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: SierraWasp

I added it to News/current events.


16 posted on 08/31/2004 9:25:22 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: SierraWasp

I would urge you to quickly contact these groups and get them to burry the governor with phone calls. Failing that, I don't blame you. I wish there were other words of comfort I could give you, but from the top of this nation to the bottom, our leaders couldn't give a fig what you and I think.


17 posted on 08/31/2004 9:49:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: SierraWasp

I represent 8 of the counties for the Grange. You just let me know what you want. Course the Executive Committee has released our lobbyist and the Legislative committee that was supposed to replace the Legislative Director isn't doing anything or is non existant. But I'm behind you!


18 posted on 08/31/2004 10:23:58 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: SierraWasp
If he vetoes it, then I'll believe what I've heard from him this evening!!!

He'll sign it. You know he will!

19 posted on 08/31/2004 10:26:38 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: SierraWasp

I'll help SW! I'm in Los Angeles... but what the heck!
(Just add the Santa Monica Mountains in there, lol).

Here's some links to those you mentioned, and a few nationwide links that might help.

California Farm Bureau Federation
http://www.cfbf.com

Link to County Farm Bureaus
http://www.cfbf.com/counties/

California State Grange
http://grangeonline.com

Regional Council of Rural Counties
http://www.rcrcnet.org

Mountain County Water Resource Association
Link?

all the legitimate Chambers of Commerce in the Sierran/Cascade Region
Links: Many

Property Rights Foundation of America
http://www.prfamerica.org/

Defenders of Property Rights
http://www.defendersproprights.org/

American Land Rights Association
http://www.landrights.org/

Property Rights Research
http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/


20 posted on 08/31/2004 10:26:55 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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