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Ex - Viet Cong Soldier Recalls Swift Boats [amazingly one-sided, even for MSM]
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS via NY Times ^ | August 31, 2004 | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 08/31/2004 11:37:18 AM PDT by 68skylark

ON THE BAY HAP RIVER, Vietnam (AP) -- The 50-foot Swift boats were easy targets as they plowed through the waterways of the Mekong Delta in packs of three or four, making big waves and thunderous noise when approaching. Former Viet Cong soldier Duong Hoang Sinh remembers them well -- the one time he tangled with three Swift boats, the Americans killed all of the insurgents in his unit except for two.

``It was very fierce fighting,'' said Sinh, 52, who lost his left eye during the war and still has shrapnel embedded in his arm. ``Each side tried to eliminate the other.''

Sinh and John Kerry, the U.S. Democratic presidential nominee, were fighting along the Dong Cung canal around roughly the same time 35 years ago in early 1969, experiencing the intensity of war along these muddy waters, but from opposite sides.

Although Sinh had never heard of Kerry, he has a strong opinion about the debate surrounding the candidate's Vietnam War record as a U.S. Navy Swift boat commander: Kerry must have had guts to troll the Mekong Delta's spider web of rivers and narrow canals knowing that Viet Cong like himself were waiting to pick him off.

``Kerry served in Vietnam and he was awarded the medal for his bravery,'' Sinh said. ``He deserves the medal.''

The memories of the Swift boat battles in these waters are now being sharply scrutinized under the divisive lens of the U.S. presidential election, where Kerry's actions under fire have been disputed by a group of veterans.

As a Navy lieutenant, Kerry commanded two Swift boat units, PCF-44 and PCF-94, in Vietnam in late 1968 and early 1969. He was awarded three Purple Hearts, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star.

Kerry's actions in several of those instances -- including a March 13, 1969 incident when he rescued U.S. Army Special Forces Lt. Jim Rassmann under enemy fire; a February 28, 1969 incident when he chased and killed a Viet Cong fighter; and a December 1968 incident when he was wounded -- have been challenged in a series of television ads aired by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

They claim he did not come under heavy enemy fire as his medal citations state. But other veterans of the ``brown water navy'' who witnessed the fighting, along with Navy documents from that time, have backed Kerry's version of events.

The Associated Press took a boat tour along the same rivers and canals of the Mekong Delta that served as a battleground for Kerry. The people who live here now have worked hard to put the fighting behind them, but the memories persist.

When Kerry and Sinh plied these muddy waterways, mangroves grew thick on both sides of the Bay Hap River, forming a bushy shield of impenetrable green. It was perfect cover for Viet Cong guerillas who laid waiting to ambush the clunky U.S. Swift boats.

Sinh recalled one morning in February 1969 when he and six other insurgents watched silently from their hiding spot in the thick forest that grew along the banks of the Dong Cung canal, about 7.5 kilometers, or 4.7 miles, off the Bay Hap River in Vietnam's southernmost province of Ca Mau.

When the U.S. Navy boats rumbled into view, the Viet Cong were in for a shock as the Americans began firing on them. Sinh recalled his comrade got off one good shot from a B-40 rocket launcher, blasting a hole in the side of one vessel. But it wasn't enough. The Americans charged, unloading a hail of bullets, and Sinh realized this was not a fight his unit could win.

``We got more fire from the American soldiers after that. We tried to fight back, but decided to flee,'' he said.

He believes the Americans must have had intelligence about the planned ambush that day because the three U.S. boats fired first. Five of his comrades died, including his buddy who fired the crippling blast. Sinh escaped by fleeing into the dense forest.

He said it was the first and last time he fired at Swift boats along the waterways where he grew up. Not long after, he was sent away from his family in Dong Cung village to fight elsewhere, which is why he remembers the date so well. His village was renamed Tran Thoi after the war. To Sinh and those who still live along the Mekong Delta, the controversy over Kerry's tour of duty in Vietnam is dumbfounding. Since the war ended in 1975, they have reveled in peace and more recently, economic growth.

``I think it's American politics,'' said Nguyen Van Khoai, 61, a former Viet Cong soldier who attacked American troops along the water but never fought directly against the Swift boats. ``On any side, a soldier who made an outstanding feat is given a medal -- but maybe some people try to think otherwise.''

The area that once crawled with Viet Cong has changed. The thick mangrove forests that lined both sides of the Bay Hap River, Dong Cung canal and other tributaries are mostly gone. Some canals just wide enough for the U.S. Navy boats to pass through are double in size today.

Many more thatch houses are perched on stilts along the water's edge and small speed boats now zoom past. Shrimp farms litter the landscape where forests once grew, and the names of many wartime canals and villages have been changed.

Cai Nuoc village where Kerry put in on March 13, 1969 -- the day for which he was awarded his third Purple Heart and a Bronze Star for rescuing Rassmann -- has ballooned into a district. Cafes abound along the water here as well as shops selling a wide variety of wares, including shiny bathroom tile. A thriving floating market also bustles where mounds of ripe rambutan, pomelo and bananas form a rainbow of color.

But much also remains the same. The water is still dotted with children splashing and men checking fishing nets attached to crude sticks poking out of the river. The smell of diesel fuel and smoke is in the air and stinging downpours still come in the afternoon.

Many of the residents here in the Mekong Delta have never heard of Kerry. They do, however, remember the Swift boats and the Americans who roared by aboard them.

``I was very scared when I heard the American boats coming up the canal, so I had to hide in my back yard,'' said Phu Thi Nguyet, 60, who has lived along the Dong Cung canal since 1960.

For those who have followed the debate, the Kerry controversy is confusing.

``It's very strange in a way. It's just a small thing, but they have made it into a big deal,'' said Lam The Hung, 42, a native of Cai Nuoc village who now serves as a provincial official in Ca Mau. ``The fact that one soldier rescued another -- that happened thousands of times among the Vietnamese, so I don't understand.''

Hung said he's also puzzled by the uproar over Kerry's decision to join the anti-war movement upon returning home. He said Kerry's actions proved he learned a lot during his time in Vietnam and that he wanted to keep other Americans from dying here.

``When they went home, they knew the nature of the war and the people here were innocent and they knew it was nonsense to wage war here,'' said Hung, whose two older brothers joined the Viet Cong and laid mines in the rivers where the Swift boats operated.

And while Kerry may be worried about veterans' support in America, Sinh said he would vote any day for his former enemy over President Bush. In the veteran's opinion, Kerry's experience along these rivers fighting Viet Cong might keep him from sending other young Americans to invade countries.

``He knew the suffering and how much misery it brought to the people of Vietnam -- he knew the cruelty of war,'' Sinh said. ``So, I don't think he would go to war again if he's elected.''


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; election2004; endorsement; kerry; kerrycampaign; mediakerrysuckup; militaryrecord; sbv; vietcong; vietcongendorsement; vietcongforkerry; vietnam
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To: cowboy_code

Ping. You gotta see this garbage....


121 posted on 08/31/2004 4:05:52 PM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: BykrBayb
I almost upchucked reading about the idyllic life they lived after we pulled out. No mention of those who were bludgeoned or otherwise tormented.

Me too. Our MSM has a very long and very disgraceful history of glorifying communist rulers, while minimizing their horrors. This writer is just one more in a long and shameful line.

122 posted on 08/31/2004 4:07:37 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: piasa
Maybe it isn't supposed to "help" Kerry. Maybe this story has Hillary's stamp of approval.

That would make more sense

123 posted on 08/31/2004 4:12:38 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: 68skylark; kabar; Hon
"have been challenged in a series of television ads aired by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

They claim he did not come under heavy enemy fire as his medal citations state. But other veterans of the ``brown water navy'' who witnessed the fighting, along with Navy documents from that time, have backed Kerry's version of events.

So, now we see what the democrat media allies have decided their "standard faux fax phrases" and soundbites are going to be: "Official records" (written according to Kerry and by Kerry (in most cases) are acceptable (unless they show Bush served honorably and completely!) and "other vet's" (never mentioning that these "other vets" also are democrats inside Kerry's campaign) are the ONLY "true" sources.

Anybody who says anything else is engaged "in a right-wing, replublican-funded, mean and nasty smear campaign organized inside the White House and directed by Carl Rowe."

124 posted on 08/31/2004 4:27:42 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!))
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I agree. The propaganda in this article is unusually clumsy. One can almost imagine that this article is a joke, or a devious hit piece on Kerry.
125 posted on 08/31/2004 4:31:26 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: piasa

Radio Hanoi, reporting to you live. . .


126 posted on 08/31/2004 4:31:48 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; ...



Want to join in the fun? Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

127 posted on 08/31/2004 5:29:27 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Leisler
Never carry a Sten in the woods. The bad guys see your magazine before you see them.

I guess it's like crawling on your belly in the woods with a double barreled shotgun looking for deer . . . . :-D

128 posted on 08/31/2004 5:58:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: OESY
Hey! Is he wearing the Super Duper Official Sea Eye A Mystery Hat?

Kerry was telling the truth! I'm voting...

Naa, still won't vote for Lurch.
129 posted on 08/31/2004 6:27:36 PM PDT by Leisler (Kerry, release your Department of Defense SF 180)
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To: AnAmericanMother

How do you say, "I smell garlic", in German?


130 posted on 08/31/2004 6:29:18 PM PDT by Leisler (Kerry, release your Department of Defense SF 180)
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
"Although Sinh had never heard of Kerry, he has a strong opinion about the debate surrounding the candidate's Vietnam War record as a U.S. Navy Swift boat commander: Kerry must have had guts to troll the Mekong Delta's spider web of rivers and narrow canals knowing that Viet Cong like himself were waiting to pick him off."

``Kerry served in Vietnam and he was awarded the medal for his bravery,'' Sinh said. ``He deserves the medal.''

Well there you go ... if a Commie says it, then it must be true! /sarcasm

After all doesn't he have the endorsement of General Vo Nguyen Giap, Hanoi Jane and the rest of the Red Horde?

131 posted on 08/31/2004 6:31:22 PM PDT by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Falsum etiam est verum quod constituit superior.)
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To: Leisler
"den Knoblauch riechen" -

Meinst du Senfgas (mustard gas)?

132 posted on 08/31/2004 6:42:27 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: 68skylark

Hey, they finally found a Vietnam vet who would endorse kerry! However, he was a viet-cong.


133 posted on 08/31/2004 6:44:00 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: 68skylark

That settles it. What on earth could I have been thinking? I'm registering as a DemocRat tomorrow. (/sarcasm)


134 posted on 08/31/2004 8:15:46 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: 68skylark

Wow...a Vietcong vouching for Kerry. Where did they find this guy?


135 posted on 08/31/2004 8:22:16 PM PDT by Justin714 (A proud and grateful Vietnamese-American)
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To: meandog; piasa

Do ya think Greg "Fudge" Packer ever met jolly ol' VC Lam The Hung?


136 posted on 08/31/2004 8:24:50 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


137 posted on 08/31/2004 8:59:22 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: piasa

So, Kerry is endorsed by a communist VC soldier.

That should put another nail in his coffin.


138 posted on 09/01/2004 3:52:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 68skylark; Hi Heels

Whoooppii Ding! The Viet Cong like Kerry and would vote for him......What a ringing endosemenmt for BusH!

Maybe, Kerry is campaigning and running for public office in the WRONG COUNTRY. GO BACK TO VIETNAM, chum.


139 posted on 09/01/2004 1:31:01 PM PDT by cowboy_code (Live by the Code!)
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To: ArmyBratproud
"Has anybody else noticed that it is America's enemies...i.e. Communists, despots, terror supporting groups,etc. that come out in defense of Kerry "

I wonder if this VC that they found was provided by Dan Blather? Or maybe Mark Halperin?

Ted Koppel was his same old biased self. It is interesting that on the e-mail page for ABC, the logo includes the words, "We're Listening."

Clearly Teddy was hearing (detecting the sound) what John O'Neil was saying, but HE SURE WASN'T LISTENING (generating a cerebral response)!

Not a very fair and balanced presentation ----oops, wrong network!
140 posted on 10/14/2004 9:32:42 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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