Forging a Paper Hero: The Mystery of Kerry’s Medals

Original FReeper research | 8/30/2004 | Fedora

[Robert A Cook PE]

OK. Cool. Needs some additions>

Did you read Kerry's official "Congressional Record" testament to a fellow vet ...

In THAT eulogy, he gives a FOUT|RTH version of a mine "blowing up" his OWN PCF!

Also, in Kerry's reply to the Humane Society, Kerry gives a FIFTH VERSION of a mine blowing up HSI OWN Swift boat, and has the pet dog getting blown from Kerry's boat over to another boat .... And surviving, returning later that day from the other boat.

Robert... Any other versions I've forgotten?

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

I am in awe of your work. Thanks. I can't wait for parts 3-5.

Hoover called them Masters of Deceit for good reason.

http://www.zpub.com/notes/masters.html

[185JHP]

Thanks for this excellent writing about the K-floppers farrago of dishonesty. Blue chip work.

[philman_36]

Just think how much easier that would've been if you had access to all the files.

Sign Form 180!
It must be scary for sKerry.

[Fedora]

Thanks for the link! On the issue of how many enemies were involved in the Silver Star incident, I have read one article by Rood where he claims this:

Feb. 28, 1969: On The Dong Cung River: 'This is what I saw that day'

The man Kerry chased was not the "lone" attacker at that site, as O'Neill suggests. There were others who fled. There was also firing from the tree line well behind the spider holes and at one point, from the opposite riverbank as well. It was not the work of just one attacker.

But of course that's uncorroborated like you say.

[bwteim]

Thanks for ping.

[msdrby]

ping

[Fedora]

That's interesting--which raises the question of why he said that. You'd think he'd be aware of draft regulations from his military service and involvement with the antiwar movement.

[Fedora]

LOL!

[Cboldt]

Bear in mind that Rood was part of a first beaching, and Kerry's boat was a second beaching, 800 yards or so from the first. Also,"attacking a numerically superior enemy" would, I would think, mean more VC than crew on a Swift boat. Even if you look at the more narrow event of Kerry on land, even if there were two VC, there were two, or three Swifties, counting Kerry.

Also, attacking into intense fire ... S/A and one-off rocket were typical, not intense.

Anyway, my general point was to not focus on the single VC. There is mmore there, as Elliott's recent affidavits "hint" at, as well as his dust-up with Kranish and the Globe earlier this month.

[Fedora]

Glad to hear your site's getting some attention! Thanks for linking!

[Fedora]

There's *another* eulogy he gave? No, I haven't read that one. In my table I tried to give some representative quotes, but of course collecting all the versions of Kerry's story would be a bigger project. He never seems to say the same thing twice!--almost Al Gore-ish in that way.

[Fedora]

Thanks for the link to "Masters of Deceit"!--very useful book, I've found.

[Fedora]

Thanks! Kerry sure has been flip-flopping for a long time, hasn't he?

[Fedora]

It'd be great to have all the files--of course then I'd probably never have finished the article, LOL!

[Fedora]

Thanks for pinging! BTW, drink more water :)

[msdrby]

thanks for the reminder!

Thank you also for all your hard work putting this together. Good info.

[philman_36]

--of course then I'd probably never have finished the article, LOL!
Your article either wouldn't have been necessary as the information would've been readily available or it would've been finished in half the time 'cause you wouldn't have had to run all over the place comparing the different imbellishments.
Maybe those are the very reasons why MSM isn't looking into it...too much like work.

[Fedora]

"Anyway, my general point was to not focus on the single VC. There is mmore there"

Good point. I think it might help shed some light to reconstruct the broader operations which Kerry's incidents occurred in. I'm curious what prompted him and the other Swift Boat commanders to agree to the beaching plan in the first place--seems to me like the opposite of what you'd want to do in that situation. My understanding is that if you get ambushed you want to get *out* of the kill zone, not stop in the middle of it. How Kerry persuaded others to do otherwise puzzles me, unless there was a minimal threat and it was all a stunt to get medals from the get-go.

[Wolverine]

Thanks Fedora for your hard work cataloging the Kerry Record..so anyone...can understand it..!