[SJackson]

Well, if you disagree with the war you should focus your disagreement on the policy makers at the top, not ... unelected wonks and wierdos [who we let] take control?. There's an election coming up, and if you watch the convention this week I think you'll see GWB happy to take responsibility for his policies. You can vote for him, you can vote for Kerry, I suspect with GWB you'll largely get what you vote for. Pat, of course, will be busy hunting Zionists.

[Ranger]

Personally I don't like Pat B. Too much anger for my tastes. I do think we need a major reshuffling over at DoD and the CIA. The intel and analysis has been pitiful to the point where folks like Pat call it deliberate. When the speculation on motive is a choice between incompetence or manipulation not in our national interest, I think its time for some fresh faces.