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Taiwan:Chen shooting 'not a bid at assassination'(the controversy goes on)
Straits Times ^ | 08/30/04 | N/A

Posted on 08/29/2004 9:23:42 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Chen shooting 'not a bid at assassination'

TAIPEI - A leading US forensic expert called to investigate the election-eve shooting of Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian said he could not solve the mystery surrounding the case.

Mr Henry Lee said in New York that a conclusive report was impossible because of the many 'variables and unknown factors' in the case. He did not elaborate.

In comments aired by Taiwanese television stations yesterday, he said the March 19 attack could not have been an assassination attempt because this would normally involve 'powerful weapons'.

Police found two small bullets - one lead and the other copper - at the scene of the shooting and concluded that they, and the gun that fired them, were home-made.

No suspect has been identified, although last month police appealed for help to find a man in his 30s or 40s standing in an area from where two shots are believed to have been fired.

Mr Lee gave his 133-page report to a Taiwan diplomat stationed in New York who sent it on to Taipei.

Ruling Democratic Progressive Party lawmaker Lee Chun-yi said it was presumptive for Mr Lee to rule out a political assassination.

Opposition Kuomintang lawmaker Huang Teh-fu said that since the forensic expert did not negate the conspiracy theories, he believed the shooting was likely a 'political move' to help Mr Chen at the polls.

The Taiwanese government invited Mr Lee to Taiwan in April to help debunk popular conspiracy theories that the President arranged the gunshot that grazed his stomach hours before the March 20 vote in order to win sympathy votes.

President Chen and Vice-President Annette Lu were riding in an open Jeep when they were shot during a campaign parade in the southern city of Tainan. Ms Lu was hit in her knee.

In April, Mr Lee ruled out one of the more outlandish theories about the shooting when he said, after examining a gash it caused to Mr Chen's abdomen and other evidence, that it could not have been self-inflicted.

The forensic expert said at a press conference on Saturday that a crackdown on underground arsenals that make illegal guns would help in tracing the weapons used in the mysterious shooting incident.

Last month, Mr Chen said he wanted to set up an independent committee to investigate the shooting, but the plan became embroiled in a parliamentary row over process.

The opposition claims that the shooting, as well as election irregularities, cost them a victory in the March 20 election. It has demanded a recount and staged massive protests. It also has two lawsuits before the courts challenging Mr Chen's victory. -- AFP, Reuters


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assassination; chensuibian; forensics; investigation; president; taiwan
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1 posted on 08/29/2004 9:23:44 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; tallhappy; Dr. Marten; Jeff Head; Khurkris; hedgetrimmer; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/29/2004 9:24:35 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In comments aired by Taiwanese television stations yesterday, he said the March 19 attack could not have been an assassination attempt because this would normally involve 'powerful weapons'.

What an idiotic statement. So if someone were to try to knife a head of state to death it would not be an assassination attempt because a knife is not a powerful weapon? Once again, what an idiotic statement.


3 posted on 08/29/2004 9:29:58 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: taxesareforever
Yeha, we've never had any U.S. Presidents assinated or gravely wounded with anything less than a bazooka, huh?

Powerful weapons, sheesh.

4 posted on 08/29/2004 9:32:39 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Don't make me roll initiative...!)
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To: Steel Wolf

assassinated, even.


5 posted on 08/29/2004 9:33:14 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Don't make me roll initiative...!)
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To: taxesareforever

he said the March 19 attack could not have been an assassination attempt because this would normally involve 'powerful weapons'.

I think his statement is right. He is comparing to
the weapon used. Especially in Asia, someone with an
intent to kill will use a powerful weapon. It was a
staged show.


6 posted on 08/29/2004 9:53:04 PM PDT by color_tear
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To: TigerLikesRooster
1. Chen was not wounded at all!
2. No, it was not a bullet wound!
3. No, the bullet wound was self-inflicted!
4. No, it was a staged shooting firing into a moving vehicle!

It doesn't really matter what the evidence is -- the psychos will just jump to whatever theory hasn't been explicitly ruled out.

7 posted on 08/29/2004 10:06:18 PM PDT by JohnnyZ
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Also...the DPP has refused to authorize the investigatory commission - YES, IT STILL HAS NOT EVEN HAD A COMMISION ESTABLISHED TO INVESTIGATE THIS INCIDENT-being established.

Dr. Lee has done a very typical Asian move in his statements. If you know you are going to cause your 'Lo Ban' (Boss) to lose face by your statements - You say nothing.

There have been several "reenactments" using actors and video enhancements plotting the supposed trajectory of the bullet(s), angle of fire, movements of shooter, path(s) shooter used to approach vehicle, path(s) shooter may have used to flee scene, etc.

They are going to find exactly what they are supposed to find - NOTHING.

Although there is an "All Points Bulletin" out for a Chinese-type male, 5'6" - 6'1", weighing 135-200 lbs, dressed in casual sport clothes. Results have so far been nil.

(Just disregard the pictures of A-Bien entering the hospital raising his hands above his head...totally unrelated.)

(and the hospital operating room pictures showing A-Bien laying on the table with a razor straight incision-OOPS!-gunshot wound on his lower belly.)

8 posted on 08/29/2004 10:27:26 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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To: taxesareforever
What an idiotic statement.

Indeed. The sore losermans are in taiwan as well as here and make as little sense.

9 posted on 08/29/2004 10:28:23 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: JohnnyZ
It doesn't really matter what the evidence is -- the psychos will just jump to whatever theory hasn't been explicitly ruled out.

Yes. See number 6 for one of Free Republic's resident pro-China psychos.

10 posted on 08/29/2004 10:29:45 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: JohnnyZ
#8 as well.
11 posted on 08/29/2004 10:30:37 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

tallhappy do your PRC handlers know you are back on the crack pipe?


12 posted on 08/29/2004 10:44:38 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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To: tallhappy
Henry Lee's report is creating disputes
2004/8/30
The China Post staff and Agencies
The diverse and opposing interpretations of forensics scientist Dr. Henry Lee's just-completed inspection report on the March 19 shooting of two top national leaders by major political parties are creating even more controversies.
While outlining the report at a news conference in New York, Lee claimed that the presidential election-eve shooting of President Chen Shui-bian and Vice President Annette Lu was not a political assassination attempt because had it been, the shooter would have used more powerful weapons.
The opposition Kuomintang (KMT) said Lee's statement debunked the assertions by the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) and underground broadcasting stations that the shooting was carried out by the "pan-blue alliance" of the KMT and its political ally, the People First Party (PFP), along with help from mainland China.
Legislator Huang Teh-fu, chief secretary of the KMT caucus at the Legislative Yuan, said if the shooting was not planned by the "pan-blue alliance," then the only suspects left would be supporters of the DPP.
excert from article
13 posted on 08/29/2004 10:48:46 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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To: tallhappy
Sunday, August 29, 2004
Henry Lee completes 3-19 shooting report
Sunday 2004/8/29
TAIPEI, Taiwan, The China Post Staff
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"The election-eve shooting remains a major bone of political contention in Taiwan.
The Legislative Yuan adopted a controversial bill just last week to set up of an independent body to look into the case.
But President Chen's administration and his ruling Democratic Progressive Party refused to accept what they described as an "unconstitutional law" adopted by the Legislature."
This is the last 3 paragraphs from the article.
14 posted on 08/29/2004 11:00:56 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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To: Khurkris

Just like in the U.S. you need to look at multiples sources. Many Taiwan papers are rabidly pro-KMT and you can expect substatial bias.


15 posted on 08/29/2004 11:02:43 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: Khurkris

First, he is a leading US forensic expert, but now he is an idiot, because his opinion is not desirable. LOL.

At least, they haven't called him a chicom lover yet.


16 posted on 08/29/2004 11:05:56 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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Cabinet bid to topple shooting panel
2004/8/28,br> TAIPEI, Taiwan, The China Post Staff with Reuters
The Cabinet yesterday decided to launch a bid to overthrow a newly passed law governing the establishment of what it considered to be an unconstitutional panel investigating the pre-election shooting that injured President Chen Shui-bian.
Cabinet spokesman Chen Chi-mai said a plan seeking to overturn the entire law will be worked out according to the Constitution, and it will be forwarded to the Legislature after the president approves it.
The law seriously violates the division of powers, impedes the investigative powers of law enforcement bodies, ignores the due process of law, and impinges on the court's authority, the spokesman said.
"Because of its responsibility to history, and the needs to defend the Constitution and to protect the rights of the people, the Cabinet has decided to launch an overturning action," said the spokesman.
The law, approved by the opposition-dominated Legislature earlier this week, allows for the establishment of an ad hoc panel in full charge of the probe into the shooting.
The 17-member committee, to be filled by political parties in proportion to their present share of legislative seats, has authority over all prosecutors.
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17 posted on 08/29/2004 11:06:35 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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To: Khurkris

By the way, many Taiwanese-Americans (even ones who were born here) retain strong allegience to the political parties in Taiwan. You can be almost certain that Henry Lee is WSR (i.e. his family came with Jiang Zhe Shi after WW II) and will therefore in all likelihood be a supporter of the KMT.


18 posted on 08/29/2004 11:06:56 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: Fishing-guy

Dr. Lee is at the top of his field. he also is a realist, he has family in Taiwan. Its a very ...'interesting'... situation...lol.


19 posted on 08/29/2004 11:08:51 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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To: Fishing-guy

I don't see a problem. He said that it wasn't a political assassination but he also said that it wasn't self-inflicted. Are there other explanations? Certainly. How about a nutcase or perhaps a 2nd rate stupid thug who placed a substantial bet on Lien-Soong winning?


20 posted on 08/29/2004 11:09:50 PM PDT by Avenger
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