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To: MACVSOG68
Most warriors conducted themselves with honor and courage.

No disagreement. Most did. Many did not.

We didn't lose that war on the battlefields of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. We lost it here at home from the leftist activists like Kerry, from the leftist politicians who had no honor,

Much of the protest happened long before 1971. Even Nixon was trying to get out early in his first term; he simply tried to do it with the crazy notion of "Peace with Honor".

you have referred to this "code" as if it were some sinister, dark set of rules unknown to the uninitiated and Innocent. The code is quite simple, really. It's honor and truth, both values,

The code is often used to, and as a tool of, coverup. The code, as it should be executed, is honor, even when it hurts.

60 posted on 08/29/2004 6:37:21 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks
Much of the protest happened long before 1971. Even Nixon was trying to get out early in his first term; he simply tried to do it with the crazy notion of "Peace with Honor"

What Nixon wanted was the integrity of South Vietnam maintained. The whole purpose was to maintain that integrity, and prevent the expansion of communism to the entire area. That was the thrust of the negotiations with the North. Nixon believed it could happen. True, there were protests before 1971, as there are in any war, but Kerry and his ilk supported heavily by communists around the globe raised the level of intensity immensely.

The leftists in Congress saw their chance and made the most of it. Those efforts by the left kept Nixon from prosecuting the war as it should have been prosecuted. And the feeding frenzy never let up until by the time the treaty was enacted, few in Washington had any will left to continue, and would have left under almost any circumstances. So yes, my friend, the war was lost here at home, not on the battlefields.

The code is often used to, and as a tool of, coverup.

You said you were not there, yet you know a lot about this "code". Not sure where you "learned" about it, but do yourself a favor and "learn" about what the Swift boat Vets have to say. You will find it's a bit more than just code talkers.

84 posted on 08/29/2004 7:26:33 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: joesbucks
You speak authoritativly here.

The code is often used to, and as a tool of, coverup. The code, as it should be executed, is honor, even when it hurts.

Yet you admit here;

Since I never served in the military

How dare you challenge the honor of those that have served this country in uniform, especially on this thread. You need to STFU and go get some class.

163 posted on 08/29/2004 10:49:40 AM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: joesbucks
Most warriors conducted themselves with honor and courage.

Most Catholic Priest are not child molesters.

Most teachers are not sex offenders.

Most parents provide for the safety of their children.

Most fireman are not arsonist.

Most policeman are not lawbreakers.

Most doctors are not negligent to their patients.

Most ...key word...here. When propaganda is put out,against our American Soliders, by the likes of John Kerry or Jane Fonda during the Vietnam war, it paints a picture that is not fair to "MOST" Vietnam soldiers, But that is what happened when John Kerry and Jane Fonda painted their one sided picture of abusive American Soldiers and Innocent Viet Cong Citizens.

182 posted on 08/29/2004 11:41:20 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 (John Kerrry, the Rice A Phony, the Cambodian treat.)
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