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To: Cold Heat; Paleo Conservative
If New York wants to be more "democratic", they're welcome to split their electors in proportion to the popular vote totals. A couple of states already do this.

BTW, all of us need to keep a sharp eye out for stealth initiatives placed on state ballots in strongly Republican states ONLY to split the electors in proportion to the popular vote count. I heard outside liberals have already placed such a measure on the Colorado state ballot and their gunning for other Republican states. It's another scandal in the making. Nothing is beneath these people and they never give up. So we have to just keep fighting them as a part of our lifestyle. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence."

79 posted on 08/29/2004 12:56:14 AM PDT by Patriot_from_CA (Suddenly the raven on Scalia's shoulder stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven..."NeverGore")
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To: Patriot_from_CA
BTW, all of us need to keep a sharp eye out for stealth initiatives placed on state ballots in strongly Republican states ONLY to split the electors in proportion to the popular vote count. I heard outside liberals have already placed such a measure on the Colorado state ballot and their gunning for other Republican states. It's another scandal in the making. Nothing is beneath these people and they never give up. So we have to just keep fighting them as a part of our lifestyle. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence."

I already have written a response regarding the Colorado initiative that I have posted on every thread I could find on that topic. I might as well post it again here. It is interesting that the person promoting that intiative for Colorado is from California. I wonder why he doesn't favor it for his own state?

It is unconstitutional, because it is a referendum. The constitution very specifically says that the state legislatures, and only the state legislatures have the authority to determine the method by which electors are chosen! The Colorado legislature very specifically rejected such a system.

As long as large states like California, New York and Texas do not change from a winner take all system, it is not in the interest of small states like Colorado to do so.

I also don't want to forgot to mention that it also violates the federal election code. The method by which the electors is selected must be in place before (as I recall at least six days prior to) the date the electors are chosen which is election day. Even if the a referendum were a valid mechanism of determining the method of allocating electors, this referendum is too late to affect the 2004 election. This referendum should be fought in court and removed from the ballot.

Article II.

Section 1
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.


84 posted on 08/29/2004 1:17:11 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Patriot_from_CA

Exactly. This trend is very troublesome and always seems to happen in states that go Republican for president. It's stealthy all right and presented as enhancing democracy. I don't see any "popular" efforts to split the electoral votes in RAT states such as California.


116 posted on 08/29/2004 2:22:28 AM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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