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Kerry campaign attacks President over 'war honour he did not earn'
London Telegraph ^
| 08/29/04
| Charles Laurence
Posted on 08/28/2004 5:10:56 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight
This was brought up by a DUer by the name of Walt Starr who says he uses his own name. They sent out their "info" to lots of media people and obviously somebody decided to use this crap.
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posted on
08/28/2004 5:54:05 PM PDT
by
Wait4Truth
("There is nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat!" - GWB)
To: IMRight
Wait a minute! I don't understand this. Traitor John and the dem scumbag crapweasels are criticizing Bush for attacking Bug-Out John's military awards and record (even though he DOESN'T have any say) and the dems (no ambiguity as to who controls whom), at the same time, attack Bush with the same allegations.
Alert the media!!
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posted on
08/28/2004 5:57:02 PM PDT
by
Tacis
(KERRYQUIDIC - Scandal, dishonor & cover-up!! Benedict Arnold had a few good months, too!!)
To: Godebert
Wouldn't that make him look good? It would be the missing evidence that he did report to his guard unit in Alabama.It would only prove he was there for the duration of the photograph. It would also explain how he would be able to get away with wearing a false unit medal (because the rest of his unit wasn't there!).
Of course, I'm just speculating.
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posted on
08/28/2004 5:57:13 PM PDT
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: Wait4Truth
Ben Barnes also surfaced yesterday, and the story on his charge quickly blossomed from a local rag to the AP wire, to local evening news coverage.
Kerry/MSM are planning on resurrecting the Guard/AWOL story during the Convention..
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posted on
08/28/2004 5:58:49 PM PDT
by
ambrose
(http://www.swiftvets.com/)
To: Viet-Boat-Rider
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posted on
08/28/2004 5:59:47 PM PDT
by
arasina
(So there.)
To: boxerblues
Here's a color photo of the award which Bush appears to be wearing:

I thought unit awards were worn above the opposite breast pocket from personal awards? Maybe the Air Force is different?
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:00:16 PM PDT
by
Godebert
To: Godebert
In AF all ribbons are worn together.
To: boxerblues
Thread from the other day:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1199970/posts
The ex-service people said that you can wear the ribbon if the unit you served in was awarded it at any point in the past. However, once you leave the unit, you can't wear it and it doesn't become a part of your record. Seems the DUmmies are wetting themselves over nothing.
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:02:59 PM PDT
by
ambrose
(http://www.swiftvets.com/)
To: Asclepius
When I was in INSCOMM I wore a colorful unit citation that the unit, not me, had earned years ago. When I left the unit I stopped wearing it. What's the big deal? If I remember correctly, INSCOMM is a part of the Army? We've previously established that "temporary wear" of unit medals IS the standard in the Army. We've found no parallel regulation for other services. I have confirmed with my father (Riverine warfare in the Navy during Vietnam) that it WAS the practice at the time in the Navy at the time.
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:03:07 PM PDT
by
IMRight
To: An American!
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:03:27 PM PDT
by
Godebert
To: Godebert
Is that the only one he's wearing? Do the DUmmies really believe Bush would walk around his base wearing a unit ribbon that the unit itself was never awarded?
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:04:23 PM PDT
by
ambrose
(http://www.swiftvets.com/)
To: MikeinIraq
My artillery unit when I was in the Ohio Army National Guard had received the Presidential Unit Citation in WW2. Due to this, I was entitled to wear that ribbon on my Class A uniform because I was with the UNIT. It does not matter that Bush was not with the unit when it received the citation, it only matters that he wore it when he was with the unit after it had been awarded.... Again, that was the Army. Their regulations on the topic are clear and still in force. There is no such Air Force regulation (but MAY have been during the 70's since they had only recently been formed.)
Evidence of this is precisely what we're looking for.
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:05:38 PM PDT
by
IMRight
To: vbmoneyspender
Did Bush throw it over the White House fence when Nixon was President and then denounce all his vast decorations during his anti-war stint? If so, I'd question his whole service, too.
Doh! Wrong candidate - my bad.
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:05:56 PM PDT
by
mabelkitty
(Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
To: ambrose
Not many of those leftist dunce caps over at DU ever served. They'd believe just about anything, I reckon.
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:06:30 PM PDT
by
Godebert
To: RedEyeJack
The White House should simply and directly state that they would look into any potential irregularity but that they were sure that President Bush never threw that medal over the White House fence whether he earned it or not... Lol! I love it.
And even if you attempted humor there. I think it might actually be a good idea.
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:06:58 PM PDT
by
IMRight
To: IMRight
roger that...
but I believe that it is not something Kerry can point too....
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:07:32 PM PDT
by
MikefromOhio
(Kerry renames the US The People's Republic of America)
To: IMRight
One argument in our favor. Men wear awards they didn't earn all the time and get away with it. But it's hard to believe you could wear a UNIT award around other members of the UNIT who didn't have such an award. If I were going to fake a more heroic record, I might pick something harder to debunk. Unit awards are the most misunderstood award there is. In 71 while in a Pershing Battalion at Ft. Sill I was in the 2/44 FA. We wore one or perhaps two unit awards that had been earned by the unit MANY years before. Later in the year we were re designated the 3/9th and had no unit awards. When I went overseas in March 72 several people still had the old unit awards on their uniforms. Most people almost never wore their class A's so it could be months before someone pointed it out to them.
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:08:04 PM PDT
by
HoustonCurmudgeon
(Bush, DeLay and Armstrong - Good to be a Texan.)
To: BlackRain
medals, ribbons, citations, duplicates, replacements, take your pick. Everything is interchangeable to fit the truth on the head of a pin/
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:08:19 PM PDT
by
mabelkitty
(Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
To: Godebert
I thought unit awards were worn above the opposite breast pocket from personal awards? Maybe the Air Force is different? Some are. The Outstanding Unit Award goes in line with other decorations.
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:10:07 PM PDT
by
IMRight
To: IMRight
There's no need to panic. Dems routinely make up stuff, that turn out to be nothing.
As for me, I trust Dubya. We all know he's not the type to wear an unearned medal. I'm sure he'll be able to clear this up, and the Dems will look stupid again.
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posted on
08/28/2004 6:10:32 PM PDT
by
keats5
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