The Best Evidence [Vanity post]

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[AndrewC]

Blast away.

[AndrewC]

Ping for your analysis

[abner]

Bumping for home.

[isthisnickcool]

ping

[Crazieman]

O'Reilly will call you a mudslinging bomb-thrower. Facts? We don't want any stinkin' facts.

(Good analysis, distributing post to friends)

[Chieftain]

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[popparollo]

Those signatures do not match!!

Kerry is a LIAR!!

[lstanle]

"Those signatures do not match"

Speaking of signatures, how about this,

"Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature. "It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me," he said.

[AndrewC]

Speaking of signatures, how about this,

Now we have a pattern. Elliott needs to illuminate the "floating" fitness report, the one with the different signature.

[js1138]

Even I can approve the content of your post.

[SunkenCiv]

Forward this to the SBVFT, the Bush campaign, Hannity...

[SunkenCiv]

Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John Lehman)
Sun Times ^ | August 28, 2004 | Thomas Lipscomb
Posted on 08/28/2004 7:30:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1201664/posts

[AndrewC]

Forward this to the SBVFT, the Bush campaign, Hannity...

I don't want to toot my own horn. I just want to get at the truth.

[AndrewC]

Yep, maybe the chickens are coming home to roost. Only one person would be interested in updating personal records many years after the events.

[PatriotGirl827]

Wow - very impressive! Good work!

[Fedora]

These reports indicate that Kerry went from Coastal Division 14 to Coastal Division 11.

[SNIP]

Since other information indicates that Streuli was the Commander of Coastal Division 13 and Streuli signed the fitness report for the period 14 Dec 68 to 26 Mar 69 on 28 January 1969, it appears that Kerry was assigned to CD 13 for a period.

Unfit for Command cites William Franke and Tedd Peck as stating that the reason Kerry was transferred from CD 11 (An Thoi) to CD 13 (Cat Lo) on December 13, 1968 was because people got sick of hearing Kerry complain about how he had only signed up for coastal patrol and not a dangerous assignment like An Thoi. An Thoi was an offshore assignment near an enemy base. Cat Lo had wider, less dangerous rivers.

The fitness report indicates that it was accomplished for two reasons, a detachment of the evaluator and a detachment of the evaluated. Thus it seems likely that sometime in January 1969 Kerry was reassigned back to CD 11 and LCDR Elliott.

This relates to something I was trying to figure out myself last night. Unfit for Command 53ff mentions that after Cat Lo Kerry was reassigned to An Thoi, but no specific date is given. I wanted to pin down the date because Steve Gardner and George Bates report that Kerry used unnecessarily excessive force on several occasions during this period. This fits with Admiral Zumwalt's complaint, as recorded in one of Thomas Lipscomb's articles, that--as one of Zumwalt's Pentagon colleagues later recalled--"young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets. ‘We had virtually to straitjacket him to keep him under control,’ the admiral said".

I'd be interested in what specific documents and pages indicate the date of Kerry's assignment back to CD 11.

[Little Bill]

a. The Vietnam Service Medal (VSM) was established by Executive Order 11231, 8 July 1965. It is awarded to all members of the Armed Forces of the United States serving in Vietnam and contiguous waters or airspace thereover, after 3 July 1965 through 28 March 1973. Members of the Armed Forces of the United States in Thailand, Laos, or Cambodia, or the airspace thereover, during the same period and serving in direct support of operations in Vietnam are also eligible for this award.

b. To qualify for award of the VSM an individual must meet one of the following qualifications:

(1) Be attached to or regularly serve for 1 or more days with an organization participating in or directly supporting military operations.

(2) Be attached to or regularly serve for 1 or more days aboard a Naval vessel directly supporting military operations.

(3) Actually participate as a crewmember in one or more aerial flights into airspace above Vietnam and contiguous waters directly supporting military operations.

(4) Serve on temporary duty for 30 consecutive days or 60 nonconsecutive days in Vietnam or contiguous areas, except that time limit may be waived for personnel participating in actual combat operations.

c. No person will be entitled to more than one award of the VSM.

d. Individuals qualified for the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal for reason of service in Vietnam between I July 1958 and 3 July 1965 (inclusive) shall remain qualified for that medal. Upon request (unit personnel officer) any such individual may be awarded the VSM instead of the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal. In such instances, the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal will be deleted from the list of authorized medals in personnel records. No person will be entitled to both awards for Vietnam service.

e. Vietnam and contiguous waters, as used herein, is defined as an area which includes Vietnam and the water adjacent thereto within the following specified limits: From a point on the East Coast of Vietnam at the juncture of Vietnam with China southeastward to 21 N. Latitude, 108° 15'E. Longitude; thence, southward to 18° N. Latitude, 108° 15'E. Longitude; thence southeastward to 17° 30'N. Latitude, 111° E. Longitude; thence southward to 11° N. Latitude; 111° E. Longitude, thence southwestward to 7° N. Latitude, 105° E. Longitude; thence westward to 7° N. Latitude, 103° E. longitude, thence northward to 9° 30'N. Latitude, 103° E. Longitude, thence northeastward to 10° 15'N. Latitude, 104° 27'E. Longitude, thence northward to a point on the West Coast of Vietnam at the juncture of Vietnam with Cambodia.

f. The VSM may be awarded posthumously.

g. The boundaries of the Vietnam combat zone for campaign participation credit are as defined in d. above.

h. One bronze service bar is authorized for each campaign under the following conditions:

(1) Assigned or attached to and present for duty with a unit during the period in which it participated in combat. (2) Under orders in the combat zone and in addition meets any of the following requirements: (a) Awarded a combat decoration. (b) Furnished a certificate by a commanding general of a corps, higher unit, or independent force that he actually participated in combat. (c) Served at a normal post of duty (as contrasted to occupying the status of an inspector, observer, or visitor). (d) Aboard a vessel other than in a passenger status and furnished a certificate by the home port commander of the vessel that he served in the combat zone. (3) Was an evader or escapee in the combat zone or recovered from a prisoner-of-war status in the combat zone during the time limitations of the campaign. The Vietnam campaigns are in appendix B. (Service Stars are described in chap 6.)

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[Little Bill]

Dates: http://www.mrfa.org/VNservice.htm

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