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EXCLUSIVE: The Dirt on Ben Barnes Claims about Bush and the Air National Guard (NY Times Barf Alert)
The Blogspirator ^ | 8/28/04 | adam_az

Posted on 08/28/2004 12:29:43 AM PDT by adam_az

Edited on 08/28/2004 12:21:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Vineyard

If I remember correctly, each of his first 2 years was over 200 points. The next two were over 100, and the final two were each 56 or so.


41 posted on 08/28/2004 8:38:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: adam_az
The Blogspirator Says...

The testimonial video format is interesting, I call it "swiftboatesque" for that reason.

But while the actual vets aren't prominent Republicans, some of the fundraisers are. Meanwhile, Barnes is is giving the testimonial and is a fundraiser all rolled up into one!
42 posted on 08/28/2004 9:03:09 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State GOP office and volunteer!)
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To: coconutt2000

Excellent post.


43 posted on 08/28/2004 9:16:50 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the Rapture, the Bush White House will be unmanned.)
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To: adam_az

TalkLeft has a thread on this topic.

The comments are a hoot.

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/007695.html#007695


44 posted on 08/28/2004 9:32:27 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State GOP office and volunteer!)
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To: All

Update from Austin: My mother-in-law used to work for Ben Barnes at the Texas Capitol many years ago...she once walked in on "Baby Ben" and one of his many mistresses "doin' it" on the floor. He's a worthless piece of political fecal matter and will sell his soul to Lucifer or any other high bidder!!!


45 posted on 08/28/2004 9:42:27 AM PDT by PatriotBill
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To: adam_az

Who cares what Barnes says? He didn't serve in the same Jet Fighter as Bush!


46 posted on 08/28/2004 10:33:59 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: PatriotBill

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47 posted on 08/28/2004 10:41:10 AM PDT by BlueAngel
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48 posted on 08/28/2004 1:28:45 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: jnarcus

In Texas the most likely to get special attention would actually be a football player for UT!


49 posted on 08/28/2004 2:34:11 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: jnarcus

Unfortunately I disagree. What happened during the Vietnam War illustrated some of the social weaknesses of our society of that time. Many of these weaknesses still exist and it may manifest itself if we bring back the draft during a war. Look at all the politicians we have today. They exist on both sides of the aisle. Many took deferrments, others got into the National Guard, others delayed their draft eligibility until they reached an age where the chances for being selected is very low, others went to Vietnam but got assignments that lowered their chances to see combat (i.e military photographer with body guard, swift boats when they were limited to coastal patrols) while others fled to Sweden and Canada (to be pardoned by Pres. Carter) with the financial support of their well to do parents. It was not a pretty picture, the rich made sure their kids had the option to avoid Vietnam and the middle/poor class kids could not. We the middle/working poor class are the largest voting block in the US. The next time they set up a draft, we should unite and make sure it is a fair system. That is the social lesson Americans should learn from the Vietnam War experience.


50 posted on 08/28/2004 2:54:50 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: adam_az

Excellent post, thank you.

And while there were waiting lists for some positions in the NG, there were no waiting lists for F-102 pilots.


http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/07/04/bush.02/

"However, the Dallas Morning News, which also looked into Bush's military record, reported that while Bush's unit in Texas had a waiting list for many spots, he was accepted because he was one of a handful of applicants willing and qualified to spend more than a year in active training flying F-102 jets."


51 posted on 08/28/2004 2:56:14 PM PDT by Tamzee (John Kerry was a North Vietnam War Hero.)
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To: adam_az

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52 posted on 08/28/2004 2:56:40 PM PDT by VOA
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To: adam_az

Bump for later


53 posted on 08/28/2004 3:41:07 PM PDT by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: Fee
The next time they set up a draft,

There should never be another draft. In old style warfare (Viet Nam and before), most of our troops were minimally trained "shooters". If they could duck bullets for 2 years, they came home.
These days, our troops are highly trained professionals. It takes longer to train them completely, and the idea is that a much higher percentage of them come home alive and well.

There will always be casualties in war, but they shouldn't happen because we don't invest enough in training and technology. And for sure, not because we put people there who don't want to be there.

54 posted on 08/28/2004 4:00:29 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: adam_az
The ex-President says he is "almost certain" he didn’t ask Barnes, directly or indirectly, to intercede for his son; the carefully crumbling denials suggest there is smoking documentation somewhere, and we may yet get a more precise snapshot of how the people who start the wars avoid risking their children to fight them.

Was President Bush a Congressman when Congress voted to give Dwight D. Eisenhower or John F. Kennedy (or whoever was President when the Vietnam war started) the authority to wage war in Vietnam?

55 posted on 08/28/2004 4:15:28 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: rocklobster11

Is that chart yours??? it's great.


56 posted on 08/28/2004 4:51:06 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State GOP office and volunteer!)
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To: PatriotBill

"Update from Austin: My mother-in-law used to work for Ben Barnes at the Texas Capitol many years ago...she once walked in on "Baby Ben" and one of his many mistresses "doin' it" on the floor. He's a worthless piece of political fecal matter and will sell his soul to Lucifer or any other high bidder!!!"

And Ben Barnes (AKA - "the fastest zipper in the West" see page 91 "Shadow on the Alamo") certainly saw nothing wrong with an ex-stripper as first lady when he encouraged Dan to get into the governor's race.

http://www.johnworldpeace.org/gd020105a.html

FASTEST ZIPPER IN THE WEST. Pretty Slick.


57 posted on 08/28/2004 5:16:45 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State GOP office and volunteer!)
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To: coconutt2000
How silly of me... I'm preaching to the choir.

Not always.

Sometimes, we need to be reminded of just what kind of man it is who leads today.

You just did that.

58 posted on 08/28/2004 7:38:18 PM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: adam_az
Anyone know the breakdown of Republicans v Democrats in the Texas Congressional Delegation in 1968 and 1969?

There were two, I believe.

George H. W. Bush from Houston and Jim Collins from North Dallas.

59 posted on 08/28/2004 8:27:52 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01; adam_az
There were three: George Bush (West Houston), Jim Collins (North Dallas), and Robert Price (Panhandle).

At the same time, there were 20 Democrat Congressmen.

60 posted on 08/28/2004 8:37:34 PM PDT by writmeister
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