[Tribune7]

I remember as a kid reading how the F-4 was no match for the Soviets etc. & then feeling glee when it was reported that the F-14, F-15, F-16 got approved, went into production & succeeded.

[Pukin Dog]

You still here that kind of talk today, by people who don't understand that American training beats any hardware out there, and always will. Ask anybody who took their Tomcat to Miramar for TopGun back in the 90's, and promptly got their ass kicked by a genius in an F-5.