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from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1200371/posts?page=103#103

To: Dog; Howlin (who were watching the Cavett 1971 debate tape on CSpan)

"Look for Kerry to say something UNBELIEVEABLE! and that should be brought to someone BIG.

""MR. CAVETT: We're back, and two of the charges against John Kerry at the moment, that I remember, are why didn't he leave when war crimes were being committed in front of him –
MR. O'NEILL:Mr. Cavett –

Mr.CAVETT: I'm going to finish this sentence. – and your attitude changed because of your political ambitions. Those are two things that were mentioned.

MR. KERRY: Well, I hardly think the second really merits that much discussion – I'm not sure – that much discussion or consideration. The fact of the matter is that the members of Coastal Division 11 and Coastal Division 13 when I was in Vietnam were fighting the policy very, very hard, to the point that many of the members were refusing to carry out orders on some of their missions; to the point where the crews started to in fact mutiny, say, "I would not go back on the rivers again;" the point where my commanding officer was relieved of duty because he pressed our objections to what we were doing with the captain in command of the entire operation.

MR. CAVETT: The man above you was relieved of duty?

MR. KERRY: That is correct. The man above me was finally relieved of duty. "

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Several of us are wondering which superior officer was 'relieved of command', according to Kerry. We have never seen anything since. HOWEVER, Texasbluebell pointed me to your info re: the FBI files where there is talk of getting 2,000 Nam personnel to mutiny - sounds suspiciously like Kerry's talking points during this debate against O'Neill in 1971.....

Ping us if you have/get any info!!!!

This could be Hugh.

The widow of Kerry's fellow skipper Donald Droz has mentioned that Droz wrote her from Vietnam mentioning that he and Kerry were planning to protest the war when they came home. This, in conjunction with the mutiny report, makes me wonder if Kerry was networking with others who were being insubordinate. Back in California when Kerry was training there, there had been some incidents with antiwar groups inciting insubordination at military bases and then providing legal support to those involved. A VVAW affiliate called LINK was involved in this. One major incident was the Presidio 27 mutinty, which occurred in October '68, just as Kerry was on his way to Vietnam.