Posted on 08/26/2004 12:06:00 PM PDT by nikos1121
This article is the best in summarizing George Bush's Milatary Service. We should all bookmark it and have it at hand as the dems plan to open up the George Bush AWOL story which is totally false. Nikos
February 18, 2004, 8:40 a.m. Bush and the National Guard: Case Closed byork@nationalreview.com
Ask retired Brig. Gen. William Turnipseed whether the press has accurately reported what he said about George W. Bush, and you'll get an earful. "No, I don't think they have," he begins. Turnipseed, the former head of the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group of the Alabama Air National Guard, was widely quoted as saying he never saw Bush in Alabama in 1972, and if the future president had been there, he would remember. In fact, Turnipseed says, he doesn't recall whether Bush was there or not; the young flier, then a complete unknown in Alabama, was never part of the 900-man 187th, so Turnipseed wouldn't have had much reason to notice him. But most reporters haven't been interested in Turnipseed's best recollection. "They don't understand the Guard, they don't want to understand the Guard, and they hate Bush," he says. "So when I say, ‘There's a good possibility that Bush showed up,' why would they put that in their articles?"
In recent weeks, Turnipseed has found himself in the middle of a battle in which Democrats have called the president a "deserter" who went "AWOL" for an entire year during his time in the Air National Guard. When Democrats made those accusations — amplified by extensive press coverage — the White House was slow to fight back, insisting that the issue, which came up in the 2000 campaign, was closed and did not merit a response.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
Candidate in this year’s American presidential elections, John Kerry, who fought in the war, went further in his criticism. In a statement to the US’ Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in 1971, he said the war crimes committed by US soldiers in Southeast Asia "were not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of
chttp://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/2004-06/10/Stories/16.htmommand."
You say it's a shame no one comes forward that served with Bush and refuse to read it because you don't approve of the ownership of the Times...I tried to help and you get into Aussie and Moon...The only thing you thought was important in the other article was a phased out fighter plane....Last night you were critical of Bush becuse he wasn't giving attaboys to the Swift Vets and I patiently told you why...You still thought he should do it.
http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/04_08_22_corner-archive.asp
Scroll down to Still Useful After All These Years...click on two months ago underlined.
Flying in the military is indeed very risky. I am aware of 5% of my Air Force flying class being killed in accidents the first 18 months out of flying school in 1956. I would like to see the percentages of President Bush's flying class fatalities. In fact the F102 that he flew has one of the highest fatality records of Air Force aircraft.
Data like this might convince reasonable people but some of the rats will never be convinced.
I knew people in the Alabama Air National Guard who were killed in training accidents in the early 1960's. I was an Air Traffic Controller in Birmingham at that time.
If you are a Vietnam Vet you know why he is subjecting himself to this ...even though no one could imagine how tough it is unless they have had their integrity and motives questioned night after night....
We have a prayer thread going for the swiftvets...I will ping you to it if you like..
You're a retread.
Who were you?
yep...a retread.
welcome back..lol
http://www.postwritersgroup.com/archives/brod0823.htm
.....Having lived with that legacy since the start of his
political career, Kerry may be judged naive to have thought that Vietnam would be a golden credential for the presidency -- and not an inevitable source of controversy. When he chose to make his Navy combat in Vietnam the principal metaphor for his dedication to public service and the proof of his toughness in a time of terrorism, he might have guessed that the skeptics would not remain silent. In a 2002 conversation, Kerry told me he thought it would be doubly advantageous that "I fought in Vietnam and I also fought against the Vietnam War," apparently not recognizing that some would see far too much political calculation in such a bifurcated record."
Washington Post...David Broder
This article seems to think the division will continue as it did over the Civil War...until the last veterans are gone.
The outrage over HOW Kerry protested the war and WHO he associated with while doing so is the source of the depth of my feeling for him.
I do not get into medals(well, I think one of his Purple Hearts is a bit much)I appreciate anyone's service and certainly their service in combat ...His HYPOCRISY and self promotion over service in a war he protested so vehemently make me sick.
He has the most liberal voting record in the Senate..I love to hear Dole discuss this subject.
I had my opinions firmly in place about Kerry and his record before I heard Dole say a word this week...Dole was very subtle but funny..Well. I wish you luck on finding your Kennedy...That is what Kerry aspires to..Perhaps his soaring rhetorical qualities can arouse the youth of America.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/02/12/john_kerrys_shifting_stands/
Kerry's Shifting Stands
(Flip Flop)Feb..2004
(Well, that's just a likely a name as Turnipseed, isn't it?)
I remember them too...they had quite a pack of little "sprouts"!
I miss the Greaseman.
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