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To: GeraldP

"Jane, seriously what are you doing here? From what I percieve of your geopolitical views, you are in full disagreement with everything modern conservative foreign policy stands for."

Actually GeraldP I find it rather amusing that you have come to that conclusion based on the only posts of mine that are of any interest to you, that is the ones concerning the Balkans and especially Kosovo. So what, I am against the action of the American government in the Balkans (which may I remind you was a DEMOCRAT government). Now how you come to your conclusion that I "disagree with everything modern conservative foreign policy stands for" just from my views on the Balkans quagmire is inconceivable to me.

Personally I think a person can be conservative without having to agree on everything that "modern conservatism" stands for. You see we (in Australian schools) were taught to be critical and analyze things and not just blindly accept things because it stands for something (as in not blindly accepting something because it is typically conservative). We prefer to see both sides of the story and before we decide which part to take we also consider who has the most to win with their version of the "truth".

Your logic in assessing my geopolitic views based on my opinion of American action in the Balkans (Kosovo) is to me rather hypocritical GeraldP. Going by your standards I can question your geopolitical views too going by your support for the bombing of Serbia during the Kosovo war (which was never officially declared a war by the way). I mean Clinton, Albright, Clarke, Holbrooke and so on were all representatives of the Democratic Party were they not?


9 posted on 08/27/2004 10:57:51 PM PDT by Jane_N (Truth, like beauty....is in the eyes of the beholder! And please DON'T feed the trolls!)
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To: Jane_N

>>>You see we (in Australian schools) were taught to be critical and analyze things and not just blindly accept things because it stands for something (as in not blindly accepting something because it is typically conservative).

Good for you. Maybe I'll send my kids to school in Australia, so they won't grow up to be dumb, mkay?

First of all note my characterization "modern conservative foreign policy". Your post above shows a disdain for US policy, and I am not just speaking about the Balkans here, though usually are. You throw sarcastic jibes at people who would defend the American fight against oppression in Iraq. Maybe to you that seems like a self-righteous evidence of "critical thinking", but to me it is only one more indication of a pacifist non-intervensionistic view of the world. Pacifist non-intervensionism or "sensitive" war-making is just not going to work, whether it be Saddam, Hutu death squads, or your buddy Milosevic.

Tell me Jane, who should give a flying rat's ass if some jack-ass restaurant owner in Timbuktu, is being convicted for selling drugs? People from Timbuktu might, but the rest of us are just not interested. And applying a bit of "critical thinking" one can see you're doing nothing more than trying to disseminate your Macedonian-inspired prejudice, so that you can somehow feel better and more justified in it.

Was the US justified in bombing Serbia? Damn right it was! It might have happened under Clinton's watch, but we were following up George H.W. Bush's threat to Serbia back in 1992 "You go into Kosov@, we go after you". Personally, I believe the stand should have been taken quite earlier. We should have stopped the Greater Serbia tank while it was still rolling through Bosnia. Had that happened, Kosov@ would never have happened. Does that agree with conservative foreign policy? No, it is only the right response of an American foreign policy. If Bush had been in power only one thing would have changed - Blair wouldn't have had to beg to put ground troops on the table, they would have already been there.


11 posted on 08/28/2004 10:00:18 AM PDT by GeraldP (Non-violence never solved anything.)
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To: Jane_N

>>>We prefer to see both sides of the story and before we decide which part to take we also consider who has the most to win with their version of the "truth".

Good Lord! This along with your tagline "Truth like beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" is bound to be the most nonsensical post-modernistic bull I've ever come across. I object to this notion on both intellectual and moral grounds. There are few absolutes in this Universe and truth is one of them. Truth is absolutely nothing like beauty, it is not based on perceptions or tastes.

BTW, do you own a cat named Schrodinger?


12 posted on 08/28/2004 10:39:08 PM PDT by GeraldP (Non-violence never solved anything.)
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