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"Over-dued Due Process" CARTOON featuring America's Vietnam Veteran ^ | 8/26/2004 | IPWGOP

Posted on 08/26/2004 6:32:19 AM PDT by IPWGOP

Over dued Due Process

by Linda Eddy

John Kerry’s 1971 Senate testimony put into the American public’s mind stories of war crimes being done by American troops serving in Vietnam. These stories Kerry told to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and to the American people were based on lies by men falsely claiming to be Vietnam veterans. Here is what Kerry said:


“I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.

It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit, the emotions in the room, the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam, but they did. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do.

They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.”


A group of men, posing as bonafide Vietnam veterans, got together in Detroit, told their tall tales. Kerry then went before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the American people and repeated their tales.

Can anybody say “hear-say”?

And what about those American soldiers, still back on the ground in Vietnam? The ones Kerry and his fake Vietnam veteran friends said were committing these crimes “on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command”? What did they get to say to the Senate Committee and the American public?

Nothing. Silence.

Can anybody say “due process”?

Generally, “due process” guarantees the following (this list is not exhaustive):

·        Right to a fair and public trial conducted in a competent manner

·        Right to be present at the trial

·        Right to an impartial jury

·        Right to be heard in one's own defense

John Kerry’s 1971 Senate Testimony, based on hearsay evidence from witnesses proven to be impersonating Vietnam veterans, became “seared—seared” into the American memory. A socialization process of silencing of American Vietnam Veterans began, which continues to this day. No due process, just plain denial of being heard in one’s own defense.

John O’Neill has challenged John Kerry to sue him. O’Neill has been a practicing attorney for 30 years now. That’s a serious challenge, coming from an attorney. But O’Neill knows that in a REAL court of law – rather than the court of public opinion or a court of the press’ own bias – he will finally recieve the due process owed to him and all the Vietnam veterans.

Will John Kerry take up O’Neill’s challenge and sue him? No. Kerry would be laughed out of court with the flimsy hearsay ‘evidence’ he presented to that Senate Committee back in 1971. And Kerry would be forced to submitt ALL his medical and military records to the court – UNSANITIZED – as part of the discovery process leading up to a trial. That means trouble for Kerry as well, in that he has already admitted his records contain a falsely awarded purple heart (for a wound accidentially self-inflicted) and a false claim of a 1968 Christmas in Cambodia.

Due process is owed to America’s Vietnam Veterans. Playing touchy-feely with John Kerry and the American Press has worn thin with the American public. Sales of O’Neill’s book, “Unfit for Command” show an America ready to give these veterans their due process. They are buying and reading the book in record numbers. They are “listening” – finally -- to these Vietnam veterans.

The fear of John Kerry and the fear of the American Press is that one day these Vietnam veterans would be given due process and heard. Their fears are becoming reality with each page turned in “Unfit for Command.” And it’s turning into their worst nightmare...

America’s Vietnam veterans are over-dued Due Process. And to John Kerry and the American Press, I say, “It’s over... dude.”


TOPICS: Editorial; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; america; dude; due; dued; hearsay; kerry; oneill; over; press; process; senate; sue; testimony; veterans; vietnam

1 posted on 08/26/2004 6:32:20 AM PDT by IPWGOP
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To: AgThorn; jigsaw; BlessedBeGod; Brad's Gramma; MEG33; kellynla; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; ...

cartoon ping

2 posted on 08/26/2004 6:33:00 AM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I approved this message... 'tooning the truth!)
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Linda, another great one. Kudos again.

3 posted on 08/26/2004 6:39:36 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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Excellent, Linda. Excellent. Keep going after the liberal underpinnings of America, now led by John F. Kerry. You have the creative ability to put this into perspective. Stay the course.

4 posted on 08/26/2004 6:39:43 AM PDT by sarasota
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5 posted on 08/26/2004 6:44:47 AM PDT by pieces of time
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The thought of a "President" Kerry scares me. If this man is ever placed into the Oval Office it will take a lifetime to undo the damage he will cause our country; if it could be undone at all.

6 posted on 08/26/2004 6:44:50 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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Truth matters ping.

7 posted on 08/26/2004 6:45:55 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: ValerieUSA; txflake; WinOne4TheGipper; DrewsDad; HiJinx; MeekOneGOP; Gracey; anymouse; ...

Linda Eddy's newest cartoon ping!!

8 posted on 08/26/2004 6:46:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry and the RATs can't stand facts or truth.)
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Great Article and artwork!

I couldn't agree more, these veterans have earned the right to be heard.

I can only hope that when the gunfire settles not only is John Kerry's flim-flam sham sunk but the lying liberal media which enables him is also full of holes.

9 posted on 08/26/2004 6:46:44 AM PDT by federal
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You might want to modify this and have the newspaper which banned you, in the GI's mouth.

10 posted on 08/26/2004 6:55:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (")
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Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004

Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.

FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!

From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66

Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you can’t live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you won’t have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you won’t have to deal with having been there.

- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW

Send this url for the online version

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

11 posted on 08/26/2004 6:59:42 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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Thank You.

12 posted on 08/26/2004 7:02:09 AM PDT by Soaring Feather
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Even his salute is pathetic. Keep 'em coming!
13 posted on 08/26/2004 7:04:55 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Ol' Johnny-boy is up a Cambodian creek without a swiftboat)
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Thank You

Fox and Friends said Kerry's 1971 senate testimony will be shown a 8 pm ( EST ?) on CSPAN.

14 posted on 08/26/2004 7:16:42 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (GEORGE WASHINGTON is nothing like HO CHI MINH as stated by Kerry.)
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To: sarasota
What excellent insight into the depth of the Viet Nam Veterans plight.

I just wanted to add that not only did John Kerry undermine our men and women in the armed services with his testimony, he also added fuel to the fire for other young people at the time to take a stance against their government, and create uncertainty in our Country for sole personal adolation.

I was 17 in 1968 and at the time the first Military Lottery was instituted. I had just graduated from high school and I can remember sitting in front of the B&W TV as the numbers were drawn. My twin brother's number was drawn first! My younger brother not until 348. Interesting that we all still remembers "the numbers".

In any case, all the young men went off honorably as requested. We felt we were fighting a good war. We had lived through the Cuba Missile crisis and had heard about the evils of Communism 95 miles from our Country's shores.

We cried when we were informed that we lost one of our friends in Viet Nam. But on the home front we were proud of our young soldiers. Families displayed with pride framed pictures of their young men in uniform and girlfriends and wives carried wallet sized photos in their purses or sewn on the inside of their bras next to their hearts.

Then John Kerry and Jane Fonda came along in 1971 to tell us that we all had been duped into a needless war. That our sons and friends had been turned into murderers and thugs. That the President of our country was a jerk and no one in government could be trusted.

IMHO, John Kerry not only empowered the enemy of our Country, and harm to our Military, he also infected the minds of millions of young Americans with his rhetoric. While Kennedy was aiming missiles at Cuba 10 years earlier, John Kerry came back home and aimed ruthless and untrue messages to the youth of America.

I, for one, resent this as much as any Viet Nam Vet. I am ashamed to admit he turned me against my fellows in Viet Nam. It wasn't "neat" as they would say in those days to welcome our service men and women home from Viet Nam. Funerals for those who served were turned into opportunities to protest. It was fashionable to burn your bra, smoke dope, grow long hair for young men and sleep with anyone you wanted. Why? Because it was a sign of strengh to do so under the John Kerry philosophy.

The damage that John Kerry has done to our Vets, also had a trickle down effect on my generation. I believe history will show that it was during this time that the "Great Divide" in our Country was created.

Once the war was over, the "Great Divide" theme gained traction. Whatever group in the USA was the most vulnerable. Rich vs Poor; Black vs White; Urban vs Rural got to be the Great Divide.

The damage that John Kerry and his co-hearts have inflicted on our Country is IMHO unforgivable. And I am ashamed of myself for having followed his call. Appropriately put by the Swift Boat Vets, JOHN F. KERRY IS UNFIT TO SERVE!
15 posted on 08/26/2004 7:19:42 AM PDT by not2worry
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16 posted on 08/26/2004 7:20:49 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: not2worry

Far too many of us got sucked into this philosophy. I, too, was a victim, lost in my university bubble with virtually no contact with the real world. Instead I got How The World Turns by the liberal media which was the mouthpiece then, as now. Funny, I ended up marrying a Viet Vet, took a turn at maturity/reality as I now know it, and became a Republican. It is my prayer that our fellow Americans have learned how damaging and demeaning this exercise in opposition has been in dividing our country. I believe the tide has turned but it will be with our efforts that it continues to turn to the right, and not the left. We can't afford to let American be dominated by the players in Left Field. God bless you and thank you for your service. You are the true heroes. Then and now.

17 posted on 08/26/2004 7:37:03 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: not2worry


JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets


18 posted on 08/26/2004 8:29:16 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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It was Cronkite who told middle America...the moms and dads and grandparents that the war in Vietnam was not only wrong but un-win-able

Kerry had lots of help seducing disgruntled Vietnam combat vets into his protest group...
The few guys I knew who joined up with VVAW were not wannabes or phonies some of them real war heroes...they protested because they thought the war wrong...and they wanted they guys they rotated home before to come home alive..I never joined...felt some agreement with the want to bring our guys home if they were dying for no good reason...seemed pretty evil to let them die for nothing...and even more evil to abandon our MIAs POWs...and our Vietnamese allies...

After Cronkite got done with my folks even my dad (a WWII and Korea combat vet) thought that maybe we shouldn't be in Vietnam...After all if loyal decent truth telling Americans like Cronkite said must be right..and we should 'maybe' bring our boys home...My folks weren't about to protest...but the seeds of doubt had been what they believed was a credible source...

The voices against such doubt were very quiet back then.....

19 posted on 08/26/2004 11:06:25 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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Excellent work!

20 posted on 08/26/2004 1:20:10 PM PDT by Trillian
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