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Hurley, Kerry Vet Chief, Sullied His Unit's Nam Vets + Insists Kerry Stands Behind His '71 Words
WND ^ | 8/25/04 | Art Moore

Posted on 08/25/2004 8:46:57 PM PDT by USMCVIETVET

Wednesday, August 25, 2004

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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Battalion still 'sullied' by Kerry aide's claim Vet says 'atrocity' charge against comrades remains publicly uncorrected despite promise

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: August 25, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Art Moore

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com A spokesman for John Kerry who was cited in the senator's Vietnam biography as a witness to "atrocities" in his battalion, privately revised his remarks when confronted by a colleague but has not corrected the public record.

John Hurley, national coordinator of Veterans for John Kerry and a member of the 69th Engineer Battalion in Vietnam, is cited in Douglas Brinkley's "Tour of Duty," which was published earlier this year.

" ... John Hurley had befriended Kerry in early 1970. A veteran of the 69th Engineers operating in the Mekong Delta, Hurley had put in his yearlong tour of duty in 1967-8 and come home distraught and disaffected. What he had seen in Vietnam, including atrocities, had convinced him that U.S. Forces had to get out of Southeast Asia, and fast." Deeply offended by the allegation, another member of the 69th, Thomas Pardue, conducted an extensive investigation, poring over every available daily report from 1967 to 1971 and interviewing 48 fellow battalion members by e-mail.

"I did not hear a single allegation of an atrocity," he told WorldNetDaily. "It would be impossible for anyone to say there was an atrocity."

Pardue and Hurley both held the rank of 1st lieutenant in the 69th's Company B.

Pardue said he tried to solve the problem directly with Hurley, leaving phone messages, e-mails and two certified letters, but never got a response, despite signed receipts showing the letters were received.

Finally, Pardue, who lives in Houston, sent a certified letter to Brinkley and got an immediate response, a phone message May 5 indicating the author had received a fax from Hurley instructing him to correct the matter.

Brinkley said it was his "blunder" and explained that Hurley intended or should have intended to use the word "horrors" instead of "atrocities."

The author also reiterated that Hurley had not seen atrocities in Vietnam.

Brinkley told Pardue a new version of the Harper Collins book would be issued in two weeks, but three months later, the public record stands, besmirching the men who fought in the 69th.

"My sole goal was to get it corrected," Pardue said. "I didn't want it hanging on the reputations of men who died."

Five of his men were killed in action, he said.

"One has a 14-year-old granddaughter," he noted. "If she gets on the Internet -- like most young people do -- to learn about her grandfather, the next thing that comes up will be the entry from 'Tour of Duty.'

"I feel honor-bound to get it corrected."

Pardue said he received a phone call from Hurley a few days after Brinkley's message. Hurley reiterated his contention that it was a mistake on Brinkley's part. But Pardue wants to know why the public record still has not been set straight.

"The longer they linger, having already admitted that it's wrong, the more malicious it looks on their part," he said. "It looks like there is some other agenda driving whether they are willing to tell the truth about what happened in Vietnam."

Brinkley has not returned a message from WND left with his associate, asking for a response, and Hurley, located at Kerry's D.C. campaign headquarters, also has not replied.

Pardue said he thinks the impression given by "Tour of Duty" that Hurley was a witness to war crimes gives Kerry a "campaign advantage," backing the assertion that atrocities were widespread.

Kerry has a responsibility to publicly correct "Tour of Duty," Pardue insists.

"It's his authorized biography," he said. "There is not a word written without his authorization. He can get the change inserted tomorrow and should. But sadly, they were willing to let this wrongful, false information continue to be out there, which sullies the reputations of honorable dead men."

Stands by claims

Hurley said in an interview last weekend on Fox News Sunday that Kerry stands by his claims in 1971 before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that U.S. soldiers in Vietnam regularly, and as a matter of official policy, committed war atrocities against innocent civilians.

He denied that Kerry had overstated the case against the war when he returned home as a spokesman for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

"John Kerry testified in 1971 to atrocities being committed in Vietnam," said Hurley. "So also, the Toledo Blade has won a Pulitzer prize this year for the reporting on atrocities in Vietnam. General Tommy Franks has said John Kerry spoke the truth when he testified in 1971. The My Lai massacre was a fact of life back then. What they have done (in this ad) is they've taken a piece of John Kerry's testimony, left out the part that says he was reporting, repeating the testimony that was given in Detroit at the Winter Soldier hearings, and presented it as his. And that's wrong."

Kerry, however, was the national spokesman for the group that conducted the widely discredited investigation. He was also an active participant in the hearings, not just a reporter taking notes. In 1971, Kerry also implicated himself in the commission of war crimes and atrocities.

In fact, Kerry began his testimony to the committee stating that he was representing all those veterans who participated in the hearings.

"I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command," he told the committee.

Kerry went on to explain: "They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

Kerry added: "The country doesn't know it yet, but it has created a monster, a monster in the form of millions of men who have been taught to deal and to trade in violence, and who are given the chance to die for the biggest nothing in history; men who have returned with a sense of anger and a sense of betrayal which no one has yet grasped."

On Sunday, Hurley agreed with the testimony and said Kerry stands behind it.

"Absolutely," Hurley said. "He's a leader. He came back, and he spoke the truth."

Asked repeatedly by Wallace if Kerry had overstated what happened in his testimony in 1971, Hurley emphatically said no.

"John Kerry says that he regrets the use of the language that may have offended some people," Hurley said. "He is not -- he stands behind the facts of his testimony. He stands behind the facts that atrocities were being committed in Vietnam."

In fact, some of those presenting horror stories at the Jane Fonda-sponsored Winter Soldier Investigation in Detroit had misrepresented themselves as Vietnam War vets – even using the names of other veterans who did not attend the hearings. Several veterans provided sworn affidavits that others spoke in their names


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atrocity; hurley; johnhurley; kerry; pardue; veteran; vietnam
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1 posted on 08/25/2004 8:46:58 PM PDT by USMCVIETVET
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To: USMCVIETVET

John Hurley was involved with Kerry and Fonda during the protest Dewey Canyon III.


2 posted on 08/25/2004 8:50:54 PM PDT by Dog ( formerly known as VC-- - - - - - Combat Dog.)
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To: USMCVIETVET

I'm just a puffy civilian, and I wanna f*ckin' vomit.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 8:53:42 PM PDT by Petronski (Sometimes I'm just too damned cranky.)
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To: Dog

People need to be aware Hurley was VVAW.

Start filing those FOIAs, baby.


4 posted on 08/25/2004 8:53:49 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: USMCVIETVET

I absolutely hate those VVAW guys. Absolutely HATE them for the things they've done...


5 posted on 08/25/2004 8:55:45 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed shrink is our friend.)
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To: USMCVIETVET
In fact, some of those presenting horror stories at the Jane Fonda-sponsored Winter Soldier Investigation in Detroit had misrepresented themselves as Vietnam War vets – even using the names of other veterans who did not attend the hearings. Several veterans provided sworn affidavits that others spoke in their names

Kerry must never be allowed to use this as an out! If they say Bush lied, when in fact he was misled by the CIA, then Kerry also "lied"!

6 posted on 08/25/2004 8:57:39 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Dog

Off Topic

Are you watching Ben Stien on Niteline ... WOW!!


7 posted on 08/25/2004 8:57:41 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Mo1

Just turned it on.....what did I miss?


8 posted on 08/25/2004 8:58:31 PM PDT by Dog ( formerly known as VC-- - - - - - Combat Dog.)
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To: Dog
DANG .. it was Ben Ginsberg

He was RIPPING into the niteline guy .. about the media telling Highly Decorated Vietnam Vets they are not allow to speak up and how the Kerry Spin Machine is trying to silence the POW's

This guy is GOOD!!
9 posted on 08/25/2004 9:01:17 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Mo1
Are you watching Ben Stien on Niteline ... WOW!!

Tell me mo, Mo. :o)

10 posted on 08/25/2004 9:01:23 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Mo1
I see it was Ginsberg. I heard a clip of him on the radio today. Yeah, he's really good.
11 posted on 08/25/2004 9:02:42 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: USMCVIETVET

Hurley was tied to the hip to Kerry in VVAW.

He was a communist like Kerry in '71.

Kerry, in his testimony before the Senate in '71, referred to "the mystical war on communism" that the US was fighting..

Thanks to his antiwar efforts we lost political end of the war, which negated the sacrifices of so many veterans.Kerry's legacy is that 2.5 million South Vietnamese and Cambodians were slaughtered by the Communists when they took over in 1975. And many died on the open seas trying to escape that hell.

And Kerry says what he did was an act of conscience(new Dem talking point,starting today). His corner of Hell will be stoked especially hot.


12 posted on 08/25/2004 9:05:22 PM PDT by exit82 (Righteousness exalts a nation...... Proverbs 14:34)
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To: arasina

Sorry about my mistake .. I have a cold and the cold meds aren't helping *L*

Yes he is good .. The tension between the two was REALLY thick *L*

Does Niteline put transcripts online??


13 posted on 08/25/2004 9:05:27 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: USMCVIETVET

If you want to contact him, his home number is very easy to find....

www.theultimates.com


14 posted on 08/25/2004 9:08:59 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: rwfromkansas

Awesome link. Thanks!


15 posted on 08/25/2004 9:18:01 PM PDT by Libertina (Abandoning Vietnam: 3.5 million died, (2.5 in Cambodia killing fields), 1.4 mil refugees)
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To: Petronski

There are VN vets that feel just like you but have now been presented a deserving target.


16 posted on 08/25/2004 9:21:27 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: Libertina

It is great....you can search all sorts of phone directories at once. Though normally don't use it for harrassment...lol.


17 posted on 08/25/2004 9:22:03 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: rwfromkansas

Moi? non! ;)


18 posted on 08/25/2004 9:24:50 PM PDT by Libertina (Abandoning Vietnam: 3.5 million died, (2.5 in Cambodia killing fields), 1.4 mil refugees)
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To: USMCVIETVET

I stand by anything I said when I was that age....all that show is that anything democrats say is a lie, cannot be trusted and should be exposed as such.


19 posted on 08/25/2004 9:24:59 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: USMCVIETVET

I stand by anything I said when I was that age....all that show is that anything democrats say is a lie, cannot be trusted and should be exposed as such.


20 posted on 08/25/2004 9:25:00 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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