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Evolution's “Molecular Clock”: Not So Dependable After All?
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Posted on 08/25/2004 10:14:24 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: orionblamblam
I agree with most of your post, I just didnt agree with your assertion in post 2. I'll stop now before we go too OT.
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:27:17 PM PDT
by
delapaz
To: AndrewC
"Doesn't that make "clock" a meaningless term."
No---all that means is that the "error" in the "clock" is better defined.
To: Dimensio
What are the specific properties of this implied "God"?
The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty.
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:29:48 PM PDT
by
TomEwall
To: Elsie
"Have you ever (in your 30 years experience) created anything useful by randomly mixing chemicals?" 1) I don't "randomly mix" chemicals 2) neither does "Mother Nature".
To: orionblamblam
You may believe in elves, if you so wish, but if you choose to believe that streetlights are elves, then you're unreasonable. And if you expect them to talk back, you're definitely but one step ahead of the men in the white coats.
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:30:29 PM PDT
by
balrog666
("One man's theology is another man's belly laugh." -- Heinlein)
To: TomEwall
The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty. Is this the same god who orders babies put to the sword and virgins raped?
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:32:08 PM PDT
by
balrog666
("One man's theology is another man's belly laugh." -- Heinlein)
To: balrog666
I really like your new tagline MrBalrog sir, and do you want to know why?
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:33:03 PM PDT
by
D Edmund Joaquin
(You can eat quail until it comes out your nose, but should you?)
To: TomEwall
The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty.
Okay. How have you derived knowledge of these properties?
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:34:45 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
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To: D Edmund Joaquin
I really like your new tagline MrBalrog sir, and do you want to know why?
Is it because you can use it as an excuse to reply to him without addressing, in any way at all, the content of his post?
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:35:39 PM PDT
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Dimensio
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To: delapaz
> I just didnt agree with your assertion in post 2
Post 2 wasn't mine. It was, in fact, yours. I'll step back now and watch you debate yourself.
To: TomEwall
You didn't quantify anything.
To: Dimensio
What may be known about God is plain to men, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen.
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:40:18 PM PDT
by
TomEwall
To: Elsie
but some INTELLiGENCE was used to determine that the new stuff was, indeed, 'useful' Moving the goalposts, a Creationist Classic (TM).
You originally wrote Have you ever (in your 30 years experience) created anything useful by randomly mixing chemicals?
The answer is, he might not have, but many chemists have.
To: Dimensio
I have never talked to elves. He is broadcasting his view of theology, that's why I like it so.
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:43:11 PM PDT
by
D Edmund Joaquin
(You can eat quail until it comes out your nose, but should you?)
To: Elsie
[Why don't you leave science to people who know something about it?]
Only if YOU.. "..leave GOD to people who know something about HIM!" Works for me. What would you like to know?
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:47:18 PM PDT
by
Ichneumon
("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
To: AdmSmith
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:48:08 PM PDT
by
nuconvert
(Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
To: balrog666
No, but it's the same God who gave His Son that you might have eternal life.
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:48:10 PM PDT
by
TomEwall
To: orionblamblam
"Science" continues to self-contradict with further information You got that right.
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:50:01 PM PDT
by
Dataman
To: orionblamblam
I wasn't asked to. The poster asked for specific properties of God, and that is what came to mind.
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:50:30 PM PDT
by
TomEwall
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
[Why don't you leave science to people who know something about it?]
Like Reiner Protsch von Zieten? Although he is apparently a goof-off and a fraud, I have no doubt that he could summarize these articles and their implications more accurately than you have.
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posted on
08/25/2004 12:51:34 PM PDT
by
Ichneumon
("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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