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To: Cincinatus' Wife
According to Unfit for Command his 'first' tour was about 5 weeks on the USS Gridley did guard duty for planes operating in the China Sea and the Gulf of Tonkin. June 1967 to Nov 1967 the Gridley operated along the California coast, Jan 2 2968, the Gridley sailed for Austrailia and then returned to Long Beach, Ca, on June 8th. In other words , the Gridley was in what could be considered a "fighting zone" ( still far off the coast of Vietnam) for probably fewer than FIVE weeks while kerry was aboard; five weeks off the coast of Vietnam could hardly be called da "tour in Vietnam" Pg 24
34 posted on
08/25/2004 4:07:50 AM PDT by
GailA
( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"You may not have agreed with me", said Mr sKerry.
We didn't then and we don't now.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is Kerry's " Heart and Soul of America Crowd." Include Not-So-Fulbright, another commie supporter who gave klintoon his scholarship(Fulbright Scholarship.)Oh yea, and was instrumental in pulling strings at the draft board for slick. All the mugs in this photo would be appropriate on the back of a " bottle of iodine." The elitist on parade in America. Vote Bush/Cheney 2004
39 posted on
08/25/2004 5:15:13 AM PDT by
No Surrender No Retreat
(These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"If you want this election to be decided on the Vietnam War, then I ask you one question: Who served this country better during the Vietnam War, John Kerry or George Bush?"
Democratic Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell is finding the answer to his question surprising. Based on what we now know, George Bush.
At least he did no harm, which is more than you can say about Kerry.
It is interesting now that Kerry is claiming to have been in Vietnam longer than four months, having done two "tours of duty," and having served on a missile cruiser.
The fact is Kerry's (apparent) war record is unbelievably heroic for such a short time in actual combat. That's "unbelievably."
If, as it now seems, Kerry exaggerated his record in Vietnam for future political position, that is his minor character flaw.
His scurrilous charges against U.S. service men and women generally (Kerry himself said "all the other veterans"), whether for for future political gain or not, on the other hand, in and of themselves, disqualify Kerry for higher office.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kerry also struck back at people who criticize him for trying to glorify only four months of service in Vietnam. "I was there longer than that, number one," he said. "Number two, I served two tours. Number three, they thought enough of my service to make me aide to an admiral."
More parsing of the truth (and lies) - period.
- Yeah John, you spent 'more' than 4 months 'in country' - 4 months and ONE WEEK.
- Two Tours? Uh-huh, 'technically' correct. BUT your 1st tour aboard the USS Griddley was ONLY for 5 months, not exactly a full tour. So in total your 'two tours' consisted of a tad more than NINE months, which was still 3 months shorter than the Army's 12 month tour and 4 months short of the Marines 13 month tour!
- And sorry Johnny Nam, but you know you got the Admiral's Aide gig solely because of WHO your dad was and where he worked - the US State Dept.
- And speaking of the Admiral's Aide gig, you neglected to mention that you almost IMMEDIATELY requested that the Admiral grant you an early release from the Navy, which you were granted, so you could "run for congress" - which you never did!
41 posted on
08/25/2004 5:51:01 AM PDT by
Condor51
(May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Radix; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; Bethbg79; ...
"My duty is to be a president who tells the truth instead of hiding behind front groups,Note to kerry, better start telling the truth or you may be struck by lightening.
![](http://www.nctimes.com/content/articles/2004/08/24/opinion/cartoon/thornhill.082404.jpg)
44 posted on
08/25/2004 6:40:33 AM PDT by
Arrowhead1952
(kerry and the RATs can't stand facts or truth.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddams Defense
arabnews Wednesday, 25, August, 2004
People can get
Kerry's real book here,
right now,
online FREE!!
From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. 65-June 66
Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you cant live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you wont have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you wont have to deal with having been there.
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."
The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War
PART IPART IIPART III
Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!
Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.
Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf
46 posted on
08/25/2004 7:46:21 AM PDT by
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
(Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
If we judge Kerry by his '70s' activism, we should assume a Kerry administration will listen attentively to those with whom he agrees without any verification of their information or background, like he did with his hearings on Vietnam atrocities. Based on Kerry's anti-war activism, George Soros would have a field day in a Kerry administration.
47 posted on
08/25/2004 10:27:13 AM PDT by
yoswif
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Democratic Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, introducing Kerry at the fund-raiser, said by watching the group's ads, "you'd think this was a 1962 or a 1976 presidential election." And who was elected president in 1962, Rendell?
Too funny...The Dems can't even keep their election history straight.
49 posted on
08/25/2004 10:41:04 AM PDT by
dirtboy
(Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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